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<P><FONT FACE="Arial">5B5. With the advent of publishers' bindings, can we assume that most commercial advertisements were in fact issued with the book? I'm afraid I don't see the value of these rules. I also want to consider eliminating the instruction to include mention of advertisements in the statement of extent, something I hadn't thought of before I looked at these gymnastics to get catalogers not to do something. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT FACE="Arial">5B9. The statement of extent provides a count for every leaf in the book excluding those added in the binding. You can't leave off counting them in the extent just because you can't figure out whether they're plates or not. You have to choose. Therefore, you might give a default (e.g., if impossible to determine the nature of a book's illustrations, count them as pages or leaves of plates if unnumbered, or as pages or leaves of text if included in the pagination).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT FACE="Arial">5C3. I find this section problematic. What is the difference between a chromolithograph and a colored lithograph? There is no such thing as a "col. wood engraving", because it could only be printed in one color, and any hand-coloring is considered copy-specific. I also would try to discourage catalogers from counting and listing the various types of illustration techniques in the 300. If it's that important, it can be elaborated in a note. Otherwise, the statement should be something like $b ill. (steel engravings, lithographs)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT FACE="Arial">It was also the case that many HP books with hand-colored ills. were issued that way by the publisher, so the principle should hold regardless of whether we're talking about HP or MP books. I've never heard anyone explain it, but I assume that hand-coloring is always considered copy-specific because it is not printed in any way. I'd love to hear from anyone with more knowledge on this matter.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT FACE="Arial">Deborah J. Leslie</FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial">Chair, RBMS Bibliographic Standards Committee</FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial">Head of Cataloging</FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial">Folger Shakespeare Library</FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial">201 East Capitol St., SE</FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial">Washington, DC 20003</FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial">202.675-0369</FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Arial">djleslie@folger.edu</FONT>
<BR><A HREF="file://www.folger.edu"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial">www.folger.edu</FONT></U></A>
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