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I think I'm responsible for this wording, and I'm not sure what I was
trying to accomplish. I could give a long answer and attempt to
make sense of what is currently there, but I think that the short answer
-- the change it to "expression of a work" -- is
preferable.<br><br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>John<br>
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At 09:20 PM 9/12/2006, Deborah J. Leslie wrote:<br>
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<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica" size=2 color="#0000FF">I think
you</font>
’<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica" size=2 color="#0000FF">re
right, Ryan, that work > expression > manifestation is supposed to
be a strict hierarchical progression. That wording, however, has been
that way from gamma (when it first appeared). I am vaguely aware that the
concept of expression has proven especially tricky as the FRBR principles
are being worked out. In any case, let me get in touch with our local
FRBR experts (all of whom happen to be on this list). John and
Annie</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica" size=2 color="#0000FF">you
wrote the original position paper for Group
6</font><font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica" size=2 color="#0000FF">
and Matthew, who goes around the world giving talks about FRBR, can you
verify the intention of the following first principle of DCRM
construction, which starts out:<br>
</font><font face="Palatino Linotype"><b>Intro 3.1.1. Users are
able</font> <font face="Palatino Linotype">to distinguish clearly among
different manifestations of an expression or work<br>
</b></font><font face="Times New Roman, Times">The ability to distinguish
among different manifestations of an expression or work is critical to
the user tasks of identifying and selecting bibliographic
resources.</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica" size=2 color="#0000FF"> <br>
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__________________________________________</font> <br>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica" size=1>Deborah J. Leslie, M.A.,
M.L.S.<br>
Chair, RBMS Bibliographic Standards Committee<br>
<a href="http://www.folger.edu/bsc/index.html">
http://www.folger.edu/bsc/index.html</a><br>
Head of Cataloging, Folger Shakespeare Library<br>
201 East Capitol St., S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003</font> <br>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica" size=1>djleslie@folger.edu ||
202.675-0369 ||</font>
<a href="http://www.folger.ed">
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica" size=1>http://www.folger.ed</a>
u</font> <br>
<font face="Tahoma" size=2>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu
[<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" eudora="autourl">
mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan
Hildebrand<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 September 2006 13:42<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Introduction: question re: FRBR terms<br>
</font><font face="Times New Roman, Times"> <br>
The Introduction speaks of users' ability to "distinguish clearly
among different manifestations of an expression or work" (see Intro
3.1.1. and following paragraph, and 3.2.2.). I'm not exactly sure what we
are trying to say here, or how we mean this to be interpreted. In common
parlance we often speak of a manifestation of a work with the expression
implied, but is it not physically impossible to have manifestation of a
work, without the expression, as the sentence suggests? What would be the
difference between a manifestation of an expression vs. the manifestation
of a work? Should the phrase be changed to "Users are able to
distinguish clearly among different manifestations of an expression <i>of
a</i> work"?<br><br>
Apologies if this has already been discussed.<br><br>
--Ryan<br><br>
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On 9/5/2006 6:53 PM, Deborah J. Leslie wrote:<br><br>
</font><font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">Dear Colleagues,<br>
</font><br>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">I have just posted the latest
version of DCRM(B) on the DCRM(B)</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">revision page.</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">Also posted are</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">a</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">(very informal!)</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">list</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">of</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">the</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">changes</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">since the last version,</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">our editorial checklist,
and</font> <font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">instructions for
proofreaders.</font>
<a href="http://www.folger.edu/bsc/dcrb/dcrmtext.html">
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">
http://www.folger.edu/bsc/dcrb/dcrmtext.html</a><br>
</font><br>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">Speaking of whom, if,
after</font> <font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">returning from your
summer holidays, you have only just seen</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">my</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">request for proofreaders for
DCRM(B), please know that it is not too late to sign on!</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">We can use as many pairs of eyes
as are volunteered.</font> <br><br>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">Specific</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">proofreading assignments
forthcoming (but not tonight).<br>
</font><br>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">Best,<br>
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<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica">Deborah<br>
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<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica" size=1><a></a>
__________________________________________<br>
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<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica" size=1>Deborah J. Leslie, M.A.,
M.L.S.<br>
Chair, RBMS Bibliographic Standards Committee<br>
<a href="http://www.folger.edu/bsc/index.html">
http://www.folger.edu/bsc/index.html</a><br>
Head of Cataloging, Folger Shakespeare Library<br>
201 East Capitol St., S.E.,</font>
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica" size=1>Washington, D.C.
20003<br>
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<a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu">djleslie@folger.edu</a> ||
202.675-0369 ||</font>
<a href="http://www.folger.edu/" eudora="autourl">
<font face="Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica" size=1>http://www.folger.edu</a>
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<pre><font face="Courier New, Courier" size=2>Ryan Hildebrand, Special
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<pre><font face="Courier New, Courier" size=2>UCI Libraries, P.O. Box
19557</font></pre><font face="Courier New, Courier"></font><br>
<pre><font face="Courier New, Courier" size=2>University of California,
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