<HTML><BODY>Deborah ¬ Please do not ask people to use the (BL) addition to the ESTC identifier. We are still and always just the ESTC. Juliet <BR><BR><BR>---- Original message ----<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid"><B>Date:</B> Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:22:37 -0400<BR><B>From:</B> "Deborah J. Leslie" <DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu><BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [DCRM-L] ESTC available on BL web site<BR><B>To:</B> "DCRM Revision Group List" <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><BR><B>Cc:</B> ElizRob@alum.emory.edu, btil@loc.gov, stabor@huntington.org<BR><BR>>I think that we need to use ESTC (BL) when that is the source of the ESTC record until the Standard Citations formulation practice is changed. I know that there are many people who prefer to have no parenthetical qualifier at all. The second option, of "ESTC (BL) ‡c STAR id XXXXXX" is inadvisable. I wouldn't be surprised if the display of the 510 as "STAR id" ends up getting changed. <BR>><BR>>______________________________________________________<BR>>Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S.<BR>>Chair, RBMS Bibliographic Standards Committee<BR>>Head of Cataloging, Folger Shakespeare Library<BR>>201 East Capitol St., S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003<BR>>djleslie@folger.edu | 202.675-0369 | http://www.folger.edu<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>-----Original Message-----<BR>>From: dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of North, Michael (NIH/NLM) [E]<BR>>Sent: Wednesday, 18 October, 2006 14:49<BR>>To: DCRM Revision Group List<BR>>Subject: RE: [DCRM-L] ESTC available on BL web site<BR>><BR>><BR>>I have been using the BL ESTC database too. I would be in favor of the<BR>>first option on Barry's list, minus the comma: ESTC (BL) |c W28314<BR>><BR>>Thanks, Michael <BR>><BR>>Michael J. North, northm@mail.nlm.nih.gov<BR>>Head of Rare Books & Early Manuscripts <BR>>History of Medicine Division<BR>>National Library of Medicine<BR>>8600 Rockville Pike<BR>>Bethesda, MD 20894<BR>><BR>>(301) 496-9204 * fax (301) 402-0872<BR>>http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd<BR>><BR>>National Institutes of Health<BR>>Department of Health and Human Services<BR>><BR>>-----Original Message-----<BR>>From: Barry E. Hinman [mailto:bhinman@stanford.edu] <BR>>Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:44 PM<BR>>To: DCRM Revision Group List<BR>>Subject: [DCRM-L] ESTC available on BL web site<BR>><BR>>I just tried the British Library web site and I found out that public<BR>>access to ESTC is now available:<BR>> http://estc.bl.uk<BR>><BR>>The item I am cataloguing is, in RLIN<BR>> ESTCW28314<BR>><BR>>On the British Library web site the number is given as:<BR>> STAR id W28314<BR>><BR>>So it looks as though we we need to decide both how to refer to the site<BR>>and how to transcribe the id number<BR>> ESTC (BL),|cW28314<BR>> ESTC (BL),|cSTAR id W28314<BR>> ESTC,|cW28314<BR>>etc.<BR>><BR>>-- <BR>>Barry E. Hinman <BR>>Special Collections Librarian for Cataloging Department of Special<BR>>Collections and University Archives Green Library (Bing Wing 408)<BR>>557 Escondido Mall<BR>>Stanford, California 94305-6004<BR>>bhinman@stanford.edu<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BODY></HTML>