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<font size=3>There is also this example in the ‡5 section on that same
page:<br><br>
710 2 Bridgewater Library, ‡e former owner. ‡5 NjP<br><br>
-Manon<br><br>
At 09:44 AM 12/5/2006, Ann W. Copeland wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">The OCLC documentation itself
<a href="http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/7xx/710.shtm" eudora="autourl">
http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/7xx/710.shtm</a> for the 710 lists the
subfield e as optional:<br><br>
‡e Relator term A designation of
function that describes the relationship between a name and a work (e.g.,
defendants). <br>
710 2 Eastman Kodak Company, ‡e defendant-appellant. <br><br>
Relator codes, which also specify a relationship of a person to a work,
are contained in subfield ‡4.<br><br>
<br>
I would question this with the OCLC reviewer, Bob. <br><br>
<br>
Annie Copeland<br>
Penn State<br><br>
At 09:05 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">The Grolier Club also makes
extensive use of relator terms, both for individuals and corporate
bodies.<br><br>
At 08:55 AM 12/5/2006, you wrote:<br>
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<font face="Verdana" size=3 color="#008080">Same for the Folger. Plus the
many relators for printers and booksellers identified as a corporate
body, of the "710 2_ Haeredes Nicolai Bevilaquae, |e printer"
variety </font><font size=3></font>
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<dd><font face="Tahoma" size=2>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From: dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" eudora="autourl">
mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Hillyard, Brian
<dd>Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:20 AM
<dd>To: DCRM Revision Group List
<dd>Subject: RE: [DCRM-L] Relator terms<br><br>
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<dd><font size=2 color="#000080">Bob</font><font size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2 color="#000080"> </font><font size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2 color="#000080">One of the most common uses of relators
in 710 must be for indexing former ownership by institutions (e.g.
monastic, British Museum duplicates, and so on). We would have
hundreds if not thousands of these.</font><font size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2 color="#000080"> </font><font size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2 color="#000080">Best wishes</font><font size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2 color="#000080"> </font><font size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2 color="#000080">Brian</font><font size=3> </font>
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<dd><font size=2 color="#000080">Dr Brian Hillyard</font><font size=3>
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<dd><font size=2 color="#000080">Rare Book Collections
Manager</font><font size=3> </font>
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Scotland</font><font size=3> </font>
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<dd><font face="Tahoma" size=2>From: dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" eudora="autourl">
mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
<dd>Sent: 05 December 2006 00:10
<dd>To: DCRM Revision Group List
<dd>Subject: [DCRM-L] Relator terms</font><font size=3> </font>
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<dd><font size=2>Dear DCRMers,</font><font size=3> </font>
<dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2>We seem to be winding down somewhat on the final touches
to DCRM, so I thought I'd introduce another topic entirely :-) Speaking
of which, MANY congratulations and thanks to Manon, Deborah, and all you
others who have contributed so much to this!</font><font size=3><br><br>
</font>
<dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2>As many of you are, we are an RLIN library working on
the transition to OCLC. We've taped our records to OCLC for years but
never cataloged in the system. In order to continue our PCC BIBCO work we
recently applied for and were granted the appropriate cataloging enhance
statuses. However there was a small glitch. OCLC wanted a set of sample
records, and I chose a variety of BYU original records that were already
in OCLC through our tapeloading. This sample included a few of my own
cataloging records. Although we were given the enhance status we needed,
a few of the records were returned to me with "problems"
circled in red. And these "problems" were all on my records and
they were all instances where I had included relator terms with added
entries :-( </font><font size=3></font>
<dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2>The OCLC examiners had two issues: (1) LCRI 21.0D
supposedly forbids the use of relator terms, and (2) AACR2 only allows
relators to be used with personal names, not corporate
bodies.</font><font size=3> </font>
<dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2>Now the answer to (1) seems fairly straightforward to
me--LCRI 21.0D is explicitly labelled "LC Practice", meaning it
need not apply outside LC (and as a matter of fact I happen to know that
the LC Practice label was added specifically so that BIBCO catalogers
could use relator terms). </font>
<dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2>The answer to (2) is a little more tricky--frankly I had
never dreamed that we couldn't use "$e printer" or "$e
publisher" after a corporate body (e.g. Arion Press, $e printer or
Book Club of California, $e publisher), but now that it has been pointed
out to me 21.0D does in fact say "In the cases noted below, add [a]
... designation of function to an added entry for a person". (MARC
documentation certainly allows for use of relators terms in 710 fields.)
I was told by someone at LC that it had been recently proposed to JSC to
correct this and add corporate bodies to the rule but it had been
withdrawn pending RDA, but I don't remember anything about such a
proposal.</font><font size=3> </font>
<dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2>As the new kid on the block I don't really want to get a
reputation for belligerency (and in fact I really don't WANT to be
belligerent!) but I do want to clarify this and so I intend to bring it
up with the person who examined our records, but after I've consulted you
folks. It does seem to me that relator terms add quite a bit of value to
entries, especially considering FRBR's emphasis on clarifying the
relationships between entities (e.g. between persons or corporate bodies
and works, expressions, manifestations, or items). They are also
essential to the indexing in our catalog. I am talking about relator
terms, not codes, by the way.</font><font size=3> </font>
<dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2>I'd be interested in your thoughts, on two fronts: (1) I
have been assuming that most of the rare cataloging community does use
relator terms in their work, but I could be wrong--so I'd be interested
in hearing what your practice is (including do you use them with
corporate bodies, and does your library use them outside special
collections cataloging); and (2) those of you who are experienced OCLC
catalogers, including enhance libraries, do you use them in OCLC master
records? I suppose one could enhance or create the master record and then
add relators to the local record but that does seem a bit a shame to me
...</font><font size=3> </font>
<dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2>And of course anything else you have to say about this
issue would be of great interest. And any other tips on becoming a
successful OCLC cataloging entity!</font><font size=3> </font>
<dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2>Thanks,</font><font size=3> </font>
<dd><font size=2>Bob</font><font size=3> </font>
<dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3> </font>
<dd><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=2>Robert L. Maxwell
<dd>Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
<dd>Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
<dd>6728 Harold B. Lee Library
<dd>Brigham Young University
<dd>Provo, UT 84602
<dd>(801)422-5568 </blockquote>
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Manon Théroux<br>
Authority Control Librarian<br>
Catalog Department<br>
Yale University Library <br>
P.O. Box 208240<br>
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203-432-8376 (tel)<br>
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