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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks Bob,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I was *<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>fairly</span></b>*
sure I was right, but I wanted to check.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>--Dorothy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Robert Maxwell<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 25, 2007
5:25 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DCRM-L] Language
qualifier for translations into the modern form of a language</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>LCRI
25.5C says “when naming a language in a uniform title, base the name on the
form found in the current edition of the MARC code list”, and the name for
modern English there is “English.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Looking
in the authority file, the practice for modernized versions is to use the name
of the modern language without qualifier. Some examples I found:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Hugues Capet (Chanson de geste).<strong><b><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'> </span></font></b></strong>French<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Chreìtien, de Troyes, 12th cent.
Chevalier au <st1:place w:st="on">lyon</st1:place>. French<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Chreìtien, de Troyes, 12th cent.
Chevalier de la charrette. French<font color="#1f497d"><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Gawain and the Grene Knight.
English<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Beowulf. English<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>LCRI 25.5C says to use a form like
“French (Old French)” for earlier forms of modern languages. There isn’t a
similar instruction for a qualified form for modernized versions (except for
Greek). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>So I’d say that you’re right:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>100 1&nbsp; &nbsp;Langland,
William,<strong><b><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'> </span></font></b></strong><strong><b><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri;font-weight:normal'>$d</span></font></b></strong><strong><b><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'> </span></font></b></strong>1330?-1400?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>240 10 Piers Plowman. $l English<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Robert L.
Maxwell<br>
Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian<br>
Genre/Form Authorities Librarian<br>
6728 Harold B. Lee Library<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Brigham</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
 w:st="on">Young</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Provo</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">UT</st1:State>
 <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">84602</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
(801)422-5568 </span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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