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<DIV><SPAN class=312301523-16112007><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 size=2>I
remember that was possibly the most interesting thing I learned from his class
on the 15th-century book, that different presses were used for different sizes.
But maybe I can toss him this query to see what he really does
say.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>_____________________________</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT
face="Palatino Linotype" size=2>Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S.</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face="Palatino Linotype" size=2>Head of
Cataloging</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face="Palatino Linotype"
size=2>Folger Shakespeare Library</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT
face="Palatino Linotype" size=2>djleslie@folger.edu</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Richard Noble<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 16 November, 2007
18:11<BR><B>To:</B> DCRM Revision Group List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DCRM-L]
Format for vellum?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=3>Hmmm... An incunable.
Tough little so-and-so's from the point of view of format. Once I started
encountering what seemed to be quartos in 6s (of the 1490s), I began to twig
to the fact that, the standard impositions not having become absolutely
routine, I must be looking at folios, printed on small formes at one pull.
That's made me cautious. You may have more experience than I have with these
little animals. I wonder what Paul Needham would say...<BR><BR>Trying not to
be dangerous with my little knowledge - Richard<BR><BR>At
11/16/2007 05:40 PM, you wrote:<BR></FONT>
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size=2>Thanks, Richard; that's what I was leaning toward, but wanted it
confirmed. This is a French incunable; signing and conjugacy, along with
size and shape, point to 8vo imposition. <BR></FONT><FONT
size=3> <BR> <BR><BR></FONT><FONT face="Palatino Linotype"
size=2>_____________________________</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT
face="Palatino Linotype" size=2>Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S.</FONT><FONT
size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT face="Palatino Linotype" size=2>Head of
Cataloging</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT face="Palatino Linotype"
size=2>Folger Shakespeare Library</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT
face="Palatino Linotype" size=2>djleslie@folger.edu</FONT> <FONT
size=3><BR></FONT><FONT face="Palatino Linotype" size=2><A
href="http://www.folger.edu/">http://www.folger.edu</A></FONT> <FONT
size=3><BR></FONT>
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<DD><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR>
<DD>From:</B> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [<A
href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" eudora="autourl">
mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</A>] On Behalf Of </B>Noble, Richard<BR>
<DD>Sent:</B> Friday, 16 November, 2007 17:22<BR>
<DD>To:</B> DCRM Revision Group List<BR>
<DD>Subject:</B> Re: [DCRM-L] Format for vellum?<BR><BR></FONT>
<DD><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica" color=#0000ff size=2>Absolutely,
assuming that they were printed as sheets of vellum on type imposed in the
normal manner, as is generally the case, I believe. As with 19th-c. books
on wove paper, it can be hard to determine what the imposition was--the
imposition being the basis of format. My impression is that whole skins
would be approximately the same size as the most common paper sizes, so
that one can infer the format from the finished size and proportions after
folding; but I have little experience in interpeting the evidence of
format in vellum printing. I think this might be better as an exlilbris-l
query, and perhaps even better book_arts-l, to cast a wider
net.<BR></FONT><FONT size=3><BR></FONT>
<DD><FONT size=2>RICHARD NOBLE : RARE BOOKS CATALOGER : JOHN HAY LIBRARY :
BROWN UNIVERSITY<BR>
<DD>PROVIDENCE, RI 02912 : 401-863-1187/FAX 863-2093 :
RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU <BR></FONT>
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<DD><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR>
<DD>From:</B> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [<A
href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" eudora="autourl">
mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</A>] On Behalf Of </B>Deborah J.
Leslie<BR>
<DD>Sent:</B> Friday, November 16, 2007 5:10 PM<BR>
<DD>To:</B> DCRM Revision Group List<BR>
<DD>Subject:</B> [DCRM-L] Format for vellum?<BR><BR></FONT>
<DD><FONT face=Georgia size=3>Do books printed on vellum, properly
speaking, have bibliographical format?</FONT> <BR><BR>
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size=2>_____________________________</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT>
<DD><FONT face="Palatino Linotype" size=2>Deborah J. Leslie, M.A.,
M.L.S.</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT>
<DD><FONT face="Palatino Linotype" size=2>Head of Cataloging</FONT><FONT
size=3> <BR></FONT>
<DD><FONT face="Palatino Linotype" size=2>Folger Shakespeare
Library</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT>
<DD><FONT face="Palatino Linotype" size=2>djleslie@folger.edu</FONT>
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<DD><FONT face="Palatino Linotype" color=#0000ff size=2><A
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