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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=teal face=Georgia><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:teal'>It’s AACR2 that says to separate all ligatures.
With this excision in the RI’s, we’re back to that: separating all ligatures
(really, digraphs), </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu
[mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 13 December, 2007
15:47<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>DCRM Revision
Group List</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DCRM-L] FW: When is
a ligature not a ligature?</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The excision
of the exception, which formerly appeared in LCRI 1.0E, "Pre-Modern Forms
of Letters", was announced--or more accurately can be inferred--in
CSB 112 (Summer 2005). As it's printed therein, there's a stroke opposite
the sentences "... specified herein. If there is any doubt ...",
which, in its quiet way, is telling you that there used to be something there,
but now there isn't. A visible overstrike of the formerly
intervening sentence "Separate ligatures that are occasional
stylistic usages (Œdipus, alumnæ, etc.) rather than standard usages in the
modern orthography of the language, e.g., œ in French (as in œuvre) or æ in
Danish (as in særtyk)" might have been helpful.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The question
remains: Since these remain "standard usages" in the
specified languages (I don't think LCRIs trump the Academie francaise),
does not one still transcribe them as found? What's really been
excised seems to be the instruction to separate, as an exception to exact
transcription, ligatures which are not standard usages of modern
languages. That is, we no longer make a distinction
between "stylistic" and "standard" usages, and thus
no longer separate <em><i><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>any</span></font></i></em>
ligatures, but instead transcribe them along with everything else "in
general ... as they appear in the source". That's an even bigger change,
yes? A return to the Œdipus complex, even in Latin.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Richard</span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-left:44.3pt'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>RICHARD NOBLE
: RARE BOOKS CATALOGER : JOHN HAY LIBRARY : BROWN UNIVERSITY<br>
PROVIDENCE, RI 02912 : 401-863-1187/FAX 863-2093 : RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu
[mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Wickenden Jane<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 13, 2007
1:53 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DCRM-L] FW: When is
a ligature not a ligature?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy;font-style:italic'>Hwæt?!?!?</span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Oh, for ...
well I'm glad I'm just off home for the evening; that's all I'm going to say
now. ;-></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jane</span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-left:44.3pt'><i><font size=2 color="#333399"
face="Book Antiqua"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:#333399;font-style:italic'>Jane Wickenden</span></font></i><font
color=navy><span lang=EN-GB style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><i><font size=2 color="#333399" face="Book Antiqua"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:#333399;
font-style:italic'>Historic Collections Librarian </span></font></i><font
size=2 color="#333399" face="Book Antiqua"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:#333399'>(and ex-student of Old English
and Old Icelandic)</span></font><font color=navy><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><i><font size=2 color="#333399" face="Book Antiqua"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:#333399;
font-style:italic'>Institute of Naval Medicine</span></font></i><font
color=navy><span lang=EN-GB style='color:navy'> <br>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:#333399;
font-style:italic'>Alverstoke</span></font></i><font color=navy><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:navy'> <br>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:#333399;
font-style:italic'>023 9276 8238</span></font></i><font color=navy><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:44.3pt'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href="http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/server/show/nav.5724"><em><i><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/server/show/nav.5724</span></font></i></em></a></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Robert Maxwell<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 13 December 2007 18:18<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [DCRM-L] FW: Anglo-Saxon,
French & Scandinavian ligatures</span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I’ve been having a
brief “off-line” conversation with Deborah and she suggested DCRM-L might be
interested, so here you go. Start at the bottom </span></font><font
color="#1f497d" face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Bob</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:#1F497D'>Robert L. Maxwell<br>
Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian<br>
Genre/Form Authorities Librarian<br>
6728 Harold B. Lee Library<br>
Brigham Young University<br>
Provo, UT 84602<br>
(801)422-5568 </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Deborah
J. Leslie [mailto:DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 13, 2007
10:44 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Robert Maxwell<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Anglo-Saxon, French
& Scandinavian</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=teal
face=Georgia><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:teal'>I
can’t believe it! Sigh.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=teal
face=Georgia><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:teal'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=teal
face=Georgia><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:teal'>I’ll
bet DCRM-L would be interested in this tidbit.</span></font></p>
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face=Georgia><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:teal'> </span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-left:44.3pt'><font size=1 color=teal face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:teal'>__________________________</span></font><font
color=teal><span style='color:teal'> <br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=teal face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Verdana;color:teal'>Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S.</span></font><font
color=teal><span style='color:teal'> <br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=teal face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Verdana;color:teal'>Head of Cataloging</span></font><font
color=teal><span style='color:teal'> <br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=teal face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Verdana;color:teal'>Folger Shakespeare Library</span></font><font
color=teal><span style='color:teal'> <br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=teal face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Verdana;color:teal'>201 East Capitol St., S.E.</span></font><font
color=teal><span style='color:teal'> <br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=teal face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Verdana;color:teal'>Washington, D.C. 20003</span></font><font
color=teal><span style='color:teal'> <br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=teal face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Verdana;color:teal'>202.675-0369</span></font><font color=teal><span
style='color:teal'> <br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=teal face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Verdana;color:teal'>djleslie@folger.edu | <a
href="http://www.folger.edu">http://www.folger.edu</a> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Robert Maxwell
[mailto:robert_maxwell@byu.edu] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 12 December, 2007
17:58<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Deborah J. Leslie<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Anglo-Saxon, French &
Scandinavian</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Deborah,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Remember our long discussions in the editorial board
and elsewhere about 0G1.1?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>0G1.1. Letters and
diacritics. <a
href="http://desktop.loc.gov/nxt/gateway.dll?f=xhitlist$xhitlist_x=Advanced$xhitlist_vpc=first$xhitlist_xsl=querylink.xsl$xhitlist_sel=title;path;content-type;home-title$xhitlist_d=%7Baacr2%7D$xhitlist_q=%5Bfield%20folio-destination-name:%271.0G1%27%5D$xhitlist_md=target-id=0-0-0-1133"><span
style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=32 height=32
src="cid:image001.gif@01C83DA1.1B436610"></span></a></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><a name="dcrmb_0128"></a><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>In
general, transcribe letters as they appear. Do not add accents and other
diacritical marks not present in the source. Convert earlier forms of letters
and diacritical marks to their modern form (see Appendix G2). In most
languages, including Latin, transcribe a ligature by giving its component
letters separately. Do not, however, separate the component letters of æ in
Anglo-<a name=LPHit1></a><b><span style='background:blue;font-weight:bold'>Saxon</span></b>
; œ in French; or æ and œ in ancient or modern Scandinavian languages. If there
is any doubt as to the correct conversion of letters and diacritical marks to
modern form, transcribe them from the source as exactly as possible.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>I remember the tipping
point for why we were giving these three rather obscure (in my opinion)
exceptions to the principle of transcribing component letters of ligatures
separately was because the LCRI said to do it this way and we had the principle
of following AACR2/LCRI unless there were rare reasons not to. (I realize there
were other arguments, but I feel that was the main reason 0G1.1 had the three
exceptions.) Well guess what. I was looking for the LCRI today in Catalogers’
Desktop and the instruction appears to have been removed </span></font><font
size=3 face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'>L</span></font><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>.
Of course since it’s an electronic document, no way of knowing when it was
removed or even any clue that it was ever there. I see the page in our paper
copy of LCRI was replaced in Feb. 2006. Oh well, sic transit gloria mundi, or
whatever.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Bob</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Robert L. Maxwell<br>
Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian<br>
Genre/Form Authorities Librarian<br>
6728 Harold B. Lee Library<br>
Brigham Young University<br>
Provo, UT 84602<br>
(801)422-5568 </span></font></p>
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