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<DIV><SPAN class=473504819-25012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thanks, Deborah, for your reply. I don't mean to cause confusion at this
late hour, the book being already published, but either my memory is fuzzy or
perhaps I didn't make myself clear enough. So far as I am aware, apart from
context, there is no way to distinguish between alphabetic and numeric
sequences of Hebrew/Aramaic characters. I checked with one of my Israeli
colleagues here at HUC, and she agrees. In the case of signature markings added
in both Hebrew characters and Arabic numerals, I assume one could say that that
is sufficient context to determine that a numeric sequence is meant, but with
those sequences displaying signature markings only in Hebrew characters, I would
say all bets are off. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473504819-25012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473504819-25012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Dan
Rettberg</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473504819-25012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Rare
Book and Manuscript Bibliographer</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473504819-25012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Klau
Library</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473504819-25012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hebrew
Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473504819-25012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Cincinnati, Ohio</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473504819-25012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473504819-25012008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>drettberg@huc.edu</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu
[mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Deborah J.
Leslie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thu, January 24, 2008 4:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B> DCRM
Revision Group List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DCRM-L] From Dan Rettberg, HUC
Library, Cincinnati<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: teal; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">Hi
Dan,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: teal; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">The
division of the rules has nothing to do with whether there is a mixture
of Arabic and nonroman signatures, but whether the nonroman signatures express
a numeric sequence or an alphabetic sequence. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: teal; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: teal; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">7B9.7
applies to all signature statements containing nonroman <B>numeric</B>
sequences. This can apply to a mixture of Arabic numerals and nonroman
numerals, as well as Hebrew (Greek, Church Slavic, &c.) <B>numeric</B>
sequences only. If I remember your research, nearly all Hebrew signings follow
a numeric sequence, right? You had to look hard to find some that expressed an
alphabetic sequence. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: teal; FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">7B9.8-11
applies to <B>alphabetic</B> sequences of nonroman characters. 7B9.8 is the
general rule. It is then followed by particular rules for Greek (7B9.9) and
Hebrew (7B9.10). Then we move into the scripts for which printers did not
follow standard sequence (Church Slavic), or where a standard sequence is not
known (7B9.11). <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: teal; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Deborah
J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. <BR>Head of Cataloging <BR>Folger Shakespeare Library
<BR>201 East Capitol St., S.E. <BR>Washington, D.C. 20003 <BR>202.675-0369
<BR>djleslie@folger.edu | <A href="http://www.folger.edu"><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">http://www.folger.edu</SPAN></A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Rettberg, Dan<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 11 January, 2008 12:32<BR><B>To:</B>
DCRM Revision Group List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [DCRM-L] From Dan Rettberg, HUC
Library, Cincinnati<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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all--</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I was
reading in DCRM B this morning on the subject of non-Roman signatures
(specifically those signed in Hebrew script) and find I remain a bit confused
on the subject. There are two separate paragraphs dealing in some way
with Hebrew script signatures, namely 7B9.7 on Nonroman signatures
(numeric sequence) and 7B9.10 Hebrew alphabetic signatures. I thought I
followed and understood the outcome of the discussion of this matter on this
list, but apparently I missed something. Is 7B9.7 meant to apply to those
signature statements that include both Hebrew characters and Arabic numerals
and 7B9.10 meant to apply to those expressed in Hebrew characters
only?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Thanks,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Dan
Rettberg</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Rare
Book and Manuscript Bibliographer</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Klau
Library</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Hebrew
Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Cincinnati,
Ohio</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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