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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>These are all interesting and helpful
questions. We haven’t used “655’s” at HUC, but that’s
no guarantee that we might not in the future. Nor did we do so in either of the
other institutions where I have been professionally employed. It’s been a
while since I cataloged a sixteenth century book with a binding with the full
panoply of dates, initials, names, tooling, hardware, etc., but what I would
have done (and would do today) would be to give as full a binding description
as possible, being careful to consistently use standard terms, and trust in the
fact that the local electronic catalogs allowed for searching such terms in the
notes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Leslie’s initial question continues
to intrigue me. We seem to have quite a number of “miscellany” mss.
that include collections of recipes/receipts that are both medicinal and
magical/mystical, these of course not being exclusive categories in earlier
times. I doubt any would have included “Grandma’s matzo ball soup”
in the list, so “Cookery” in most cases as a subject heading would
not be a concern. I notice that the list on the RBMS website has in addition to
“Medical formularies”, which would work in some cases for us, “Magical
picture books”, which would not be relevant. There do not seem to be any
options for something in the line of “Cabalistic formularies” or “Practical
magic”. Then there are the mss. devoted to issues of calendar which have
mystical/cabalistic overtones as well. Would anyone have any suggestions for
any of these?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Robert Maxwell<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:35
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DCRM-L] Recipes in
RBGENR</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>You also have the
option of using LCSH:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>655 -0 Recipes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>That’s
probably what I would do here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Robert L. Maxwell<br>
Head, Special Collections and Metadata Catalog Dept.<br>
6728 Harold B. Lee Library<br>
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(801)422-5568</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Deborah J. Leslie<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 29, 2008
12:35 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [DCRM-L] Recipes in
RBGENR<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Cookbooks
/ Medical formularies (rbgenr) vs. Recipes (aat)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>The
whole</span></font> <font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>“receipt”
issue in early modern materials is problematic,</span></font> <font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>and rbgenr has resolved it by
not allowing use of either</span></font> <font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'>“receipts” or</span></font> <font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>“recipes,” but in
dividing</span></font> <font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>between
the cookery and medicinal</span></font> <font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'>receipts (even though they</span></font> <font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>don’t often</span></font> <font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>fall neatly into those
categories.) </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>So,
okay, problematic,</span></font> <font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:
Calibri'>but workable; our manuscripts containing recipes nearly always contain
both kinds, so we end up applying</span></font> <font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'>paired genre terms of</span></font> <font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>“Cookbooks” and</span></font>
<font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>“Medical
formularies.” But now</span></font> <font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'>we need a genre term for individual recipes that
are contained within a manuscript miscellany. Neither</span></font> <font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>“cookbooks” nor</span></font>
<font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>“medical formularies”
will do; both</span></font> <font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>indicate
a</span></font> <font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>book or</span></font>
<font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>collection</span></font> <font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>of</span></font> <font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>recipes</span></font> <font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>rather than individual instances
of</span></font> <font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>recipes</span></font>
<font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>within a different kind of
book.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>AAT
has</span></font> <font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>“Recipes,”
and we do use AAT for terms we need not contained in the rbms controlled
vocabularies, but I hesitate</span></font> <font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'>to do it in this case. The two thesauri have
different entirely approaches to the receipt problem, and to pick and choose
here</span></font> <font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>seems
to</span></font> <font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>invite
chaos.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>What
would you do?</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=1 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana'>__________________________</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S.<br>
Head of Cataloging<br>
Folger Shakespeare Library<br>
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<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Washington</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">D.C.</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">20003</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
202.675-0369<br>
djleslie@folger.edu |</span></font> <a href="http://www.folger.edu"><font
size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>http://www.folger.edu</span></font></a><font
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