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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=564423215-21082008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>That was just it. I didn't know who the author is.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=564423215-21082008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=564423215-21082008><FONT><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial>The BN claims it's Hippolyte-Alexandre PUTOD; CERL, on the
other hand, cross-references Alitephe (the author on the t.p.) as the
pseudonym of Francois Marie PUTHOD. </FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=564423215-21082008><FONT><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial>F. M. Puthod is in LCNAF. I'm sure that these are two different
people: Putod v. Puthod. Someone has it wrong and I couldn't find a definitive
answer, so I was trying to bring this out in the bib record. It's not a matter
of tracing different names, it's a matter of pointing out that this book is
attributed to two different authors. </FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=564423215-21082008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=564423215-21082008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Actually, I think the BN is incorrect. I paged the supplement to Querard
and there is a reference to Puthod as the author of this book. So that's
settled. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=564423215-21082008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=564423215-21082008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>No need to cite CERL. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=564423215-21082008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=564423215-21082008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Thanks to everyone who piped in on this.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=564423215-21082008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=564423215-21082008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Nina</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu
[mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Deborah J.
Leslie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:51 PM<BR><B>To:</B> DCRM
Revision Group List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DCRM-L] Citing CERL in bib
record<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoPlainText>I would definitely put this information in the bib record,
a là DCRM(B) 7B6; otherwise, anyone looking at the bib record would be mystified
why Puthod is given as the author when the book itself says it’s by Alitephe.
I’m in full favor of having authority records carry their load, but I don’t
think this is a load it’s meant to carry. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>But this isn’t Nina’s question. I would not cite CERL in
the 510, but would make a note more along the lines that Bob suggests, citing
the BN for your authority. But, I’m confused as to your level of certainty about
who the author actually was. For you to say that 1) it is attributed to H-A
Putod, which by its very wording suggests a high degree of certainty, but go on
to say in the same note that Alitephe is the pseudonym of F.M. Puthod … well,
I’m not sure what exactly you’re saying. Who’s the author? <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>_________________________________________<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Head of Cataloging, Folger Shakespeare
Library<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>201 East Capitol St., S.E., Washington, D.C.
20003<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>djleslie@folger.edu 202.675-0369
(t) 202.675-0328 (f)<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>www.folger.edu<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of
Robert Maxwell<BR>Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2008 19:38<BR>To: DCRM Revision
Group List<BR>Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Citing CERL in bib record</P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>I would not make a note for this in the bibliographic
record at all. Rather I would put this information in the authority record since
it has to do with the identity of the person. Having done that, if I really
wanted to be more informative to the patron, I would simply make the statement
in a 500 note without citing anything. (But the reason I would put this
information in the authority record only and not put it in the bibliographic
record is to avoid putting the note in EVERY bib record having to do with
Alitephe. That's why we have the authority system in place.)<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>I don't understand how CERL claims it is citing LCNAF for
the attribution, by the way, since the information doesn't appear to me to be in
the LC/NACO authority file. Whatever you do, I hope you'll update the authority
record for this person :-)<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Bob<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Robert L. Maxwell<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Head, Special Collections and Metadata Catalog
Dept.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>6728 Harold B. Lee Library<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Brigham Young University<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Provo, UT 84602<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>(801)422-5568<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>From: dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu
[mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Schneider, Nina<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:01 AM<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>To: DCRM Revision Group List<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Citing CERL in bib
record<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Here are the details:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>I'm working on "Le Vrai Patriote. Dissertation
Philosophique et<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Politique, Par M. Alitephe, Citoyen Francais." It's dated
1789, with no<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>place or publisher.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>There is a record for the microfilm in OCLC (#79900426)
and it's<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>attributed to Francois Marie Puthod,(1757-1820). This is
the same<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>attribution given by the knowledgeable bookseller from
whom we bought<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>it. However, the Bibliotheque National attributes it
to<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Hippolyte-Alexandre Putod (1753-1793). They have more than
one edition.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>This is when I checked CERL and found that M. Alitephe is
cross<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>referenced to Francois Marie Puthod. The source is
LCNAF.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>So, what I'd like to do is<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>500 Alitephe is the pseudonym of
Francois Marie Puthod. Cf. CERL<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>510 4 CERL $ccnp00443253<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>I could also modify my 500 note:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>500 Attributed to
Hippolyte-Alexandre Putod. Cf. BN; Alitephe is<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>the pseudonym of Francois Marie Puthod. Cf.
CERL<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>700 1 Puthod, Fra....<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>700 1 Putod, Hip...<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Francois Marie Puthod is in the LCNAF, Hippolyte-Alexandre
Putod is not.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>The pseudonym Alitephe is not cross-referenced in LC, only
in CERL.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText>Unfortunately, this book is not in Barbier, Cioranescu, or
Querard.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></P>
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