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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hi Deborah,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I was only half-joking when I suggested
Provenance. I tend to think of Provenance as including evidence of use. Someone
here at the Library Company suggested thinking in terms of “post market”
events. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>If you extend the user to include
non-humans you could include worms. We open (ahem) a can of them if we extend
this to dog chewing and cat scratching. I’ve cataloged neither, but own
examples in my personal collection.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Friday musings …<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>H.A. Phelps<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>hphelps@librarycompany.org<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Deborah J. Leslie<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 14, 2008
11:18 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DCRM-L] wormholes</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#5c4676" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#5C4676'>This brings up a
difficulty with the current divisions of the RBMS controlled vocabularies. I've
run into a number of people who have trouble with the concept of
"provenance evidence" that doesn't point to actual ownership, but
indicates something done to the material after publication (e.g.,
"Extra-illustrated copies"). Nina and her people on the Controlled
Vocabularies subcommittee might want to consider either a new category, or a
revamping of current categories, to include terms relating to things that have
happened to the book since issued that comprise neither binding nor provenance.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color="#5c4676" face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#5C4676'>__________________________</span></font><font
size=2 color="#5c4676" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#5C4676'> <br>
</span></font><font size=1 color="#5c4676" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
9.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#5C4676'>Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. <br>
Head of Cataloging <br>
Folger Shakespeare Library <br>
<st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">201 East Capitol St., S.E.</st1:address></st1:Street>
<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Washington</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">D.C.</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">20003</st1:PostalCode></st1:place>
<br>
202.675-0369 <br>
djleslie@folger.edu | <a href="http://www.folger.edu">http://www.folger.edu</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#5C4676'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Holly Phelps<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 14 November, 2008
09:00<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DCRM-L] wormholes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Sounds like we have the makings of a term
for the controlled vocabularies. Do you suppose evidence of worms would be
Provenance? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>H.A. Phelps<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>hphelps@librarycompany.org<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Young, Stephen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 14, 2008
8:56 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DCRM-L] wormholes</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>For what it's worth,
we use the past participle "wormed" in imperfect notes for the
Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library. For example: Imperfect: some p.
wormed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Stephen R. Young<br>
Rare Book Team Leader<br>
Catalog and Metadata Services<br>
Sterling Memorial Library<br>
<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">Box</st1:Street> 208240</st1:address><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">New Haven</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">CT</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">06520</st1:PostalCode></st1:place>-8240<br>
<br>
Tel.: 203-432-8385<br>
Fax: 203-432-7231<br>
<br>
Email: stephen.young@yale.edu<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Schneider, Nina<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 13, 2008
8:10 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [DCRM-L] wormholes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I should probably be the last person
asking this question, but does anyone know if there is a term for the holes
that are caused by bookworms? I've search RBMS and LC and AAT under wormholes,
worm holes, worms, worm, and holes. "Holes" results in pin holes and
such.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Nina</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>+-------<br>
Nina Schneider<br>
Head Cataloger<br>
William Andrews Clark Memorial Library<br>
<st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">2520 Cimarron Street</st1:address></st1:Street><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Los Angeles</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">CA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">90018</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
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323-731-8529<br>
nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu<br>
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