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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"High Tower Text","serif"'>All
her many other excellences aside, my congratulations to Deborah for posting what
I believe is the first footnoted message I have ever seen on DCRB-L — or
anywhere else, for that matter!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah
J. Leslie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 09, 2009 11:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] 046 - Incorrect or BCE dates<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5C4676'>I'm grateful to John* for resurrecting this issue. I remember at
the time being disappointed in the result, because the MARBI proposal that John
Attig and I wrote requested a new date type, 'x', with the incorrect and the
correct dates recorded in the fixed fields. The problem, of course, was that if
there was an incorrect date involving multiple dates, the fixed fields could
not be used. In retrospect, using field 046 (which had been already defined as
field for additional date coding) was a good choice. At the time, however, the
utility and local system I was using didn't index 046, so it seemed like a
defeat and so never publicized the change or recommended its use.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5C4676'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5C4676'>I plan to implement use of 046 at the Folger; I don't know yet
if our Voyager can or does index it, but it's time to take my own medicine:
don't make cataloging decisions based on limitations of current systems. What
is needed is not keyword indexing of the 046, but date indexing. I echo John in
hearing how other people's local systems treat dates in 046. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5C4676'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#5C4676'>__________________________</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#5C4676'> <br>
</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5C4676'>Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. <br>
RBMS Chair 2009-2010 | Head of Cataloging, Folger Shakespeare Library <br>
201 East Capitol St., S.E. | Washington, D.C. 20003 | 202.675-0369 <br>
djleslie@folger.edu | <a href="http://www.folger.edu/">http://www.folger.edu</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5C4676'>*For those who don't know, John Lancaster was on the original
RBMS [Bibliographical] Standards Committee and instrumental as the committee
first wrote <i>Genre Terms</i> and developed from there. He is retired from
Amherst College and is doing some volunteer rare book cataloging, and so is
immersing himself in DCRM(B). We are lucky to have him on board.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5C4676'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#5C4676'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John
Lancaster<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 09 September, 2009 08:56<br>
<b>To:</b> dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] 046 - Incorrect or BCE dates<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I’ve only recently become aware, as a result of
conversations with Glenn Patton of OCLC and Deborah Leslie of the Folger,
of the availability of the 046 field for the recording (and in OCLC at
least, indexing) of incorrect dates of publication (e.g. the date on the piece
is printed as 1599, but the work was actually published in 1610) and B.C.E.
dates (as well as other dates of perhaps less interest to this community).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Although the field has clearly been around for some time, I
and others I have been in touch with have been either unaware of it, or only
dimly aware, and in any case not using it. Deborah has suggested that a
note about it might be of general interest.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>OCLC’s implementation is set out in Bibliographic Formats
and Standards:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/0xx/046.shtm">http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/0xx/046.shtm</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>The full MARC 21 description can be seen here: <a
href="http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd046.html">http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd046.html</a>
or, if you prefer the concise form, here: <a
href="http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/concise/bd046.html">http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/concise/bd046.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>The original MARBI approval goes back more than 10 years: <a
href="http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/1998/98-07.html">http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/1998/98-07.html</a>
The most recent discussions of expansion were in 2002, with links
backward:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/2002/2002-03.html">http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/2002/2002-03.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I’d be curious to know whether the field is indexed in local
systems, and if it’s in general use. I know I’ll be using it from now on.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>--<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>John Lancaster (<a href="mailto:jlancaster@amherst.edu">jlancaster@amherst.edu</a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>P.O. Box 775<o:p></o:p></p>
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