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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";
color:blue'>Greetings all--<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";
color:blue'>Hmmm... Extrapolating from 4D1.3, it would seem that<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";
color:blue'> ... $b Erstlich getruckt zu Mittelburg, im Jahr 1594, $c
nachgetruckt im Jahr 1620<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";
color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";
color:blue'>would be acceptable, if not obligatory, as analogue of “$c printed
in the year 1620”. That portion of the imprint is certainly grammatically
separable, but I grant that there may be a conceptual or even narrative unity
that might be respected. It’s all a bit artificial, of course, when things get
this complicated. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";
color:blue'>Anyone up for compiling BSCRI’s in these cases? (Now <i>there’s</i>
a committee assignment!) - Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:blue'>RICHARD NOBLE : RARE BOOKS CATALOGER : JOHN HAY LIBRARY : BROWN
UNIVERSITY<br>
PROVIDENCE, RI 02912 : 401-863-1187/FAX 863-2093 : RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU </span><span
style='font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah
J. Leslie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 02, 2009 2:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Question re. Unusual Imprint<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#5C4676'>Hi Tom,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#5C4676'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#5C4676'>Actually,
nothing gets transcribed in ‡a. I agree with Jain that a conjecture of
&quot;[Mittelburg?]&quot; is most reasonable. All transcription takes place in
‡b, which is the default element for transcribing grammatically inseparable
publication data. See DCRM(B) 4C3. <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>260 __ $a [Mittelburg?] : $b Erstlich getruckt zu
Mittelburg, im Iahr 1594, nachgetruckt im Iahr 1620, ‡c [1620]<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#5C4676'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#5C4676'>I'm assuming
that in German, the whole clause &quot;nachgetrucket im Iahr 1620&quot; is
considered grammatically inseparable. Just as in English, we wouldn't normally
split &quot;Printed in the year 1620.&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fletcher,
Jain<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 02 October, 2009 12:31<br>
<b>To:</b> dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Question re. Unusual Imprint<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Californian FB","serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi, Tom,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Californian FB","serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp; I’ll let others test the new rules to see if they
cover this situation (so many permutations of publication statements in “real
life situations”, it’s impossible to be sure they’ve all been taken care of in
the various scenarios considered in the process of creating rules). I am just
going to respond to one of your points. It’s true there is no indication of
where the imprint was done the second time, but my feeling is that there is a
pretty strong possibility that “no indication” means there was no change
(repetition not being worth the extra type). So, for that reason, I would think
you have a fairly good reason to put [Mittleburg?] in your subfield $a. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
--Jain<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";
color:blue'>Jain Fletcher<br>
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Department of Special Collections<br>
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"Californian FB","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";
color:blue'>v: (310) 794-4096<br>
f: (310) 206-1864<br>
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color:blue'><a href="mailto:jfletchr@library.ucla.edu"
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Californian FB","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu
[mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bolze, Thomas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 02, 2009 8:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Question re. Unusual Imprint<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Colleagues - <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>I have a German-language item with the following imprint:<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Erstlich getruckt zu Mittelburg, im Iahr 1594, nachgetruckt
im Iahr 1620.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>My question is how this would be entered in the 260, since
there's no indication of where the reprint was done.&nbsp; Would all of this go
in the subfield c, eg.:<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>260 __ $a [Germany? : $b s.n.], $c erstlich getruckt zu
Mittelburg, im Iahr 1594, nachgetruckt im Iahr 1620.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Or would a portion of the imprint instead be transcribed in
the subfield a?<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Many thanks for your advice.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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