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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";
color:blue'>I don’t think “Chez” bears repeating, in part because the curly
brace is really just a mark of punctuation akin to a colon, the equivalent of “Chez:
AB at the sign of the Three White Leopards; CD at the Aged Eagle; ...” (well,
yesterday was Ash Wednesday).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";
color:blue'>The whole typographic arrangement is designed specifically to <i>avoid</i>
repetition of “Chez”, and I think we should respect its purpose and always
transcribe “Chez” once, no matter how many booksellers it applies to. The multi-line
brace and the disposition of type together constitute a meaningful graphic feature
that can’t be transcribed but can easily be described in a note.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>RICHARD NOBLE :
RARE BOOKS CATALOGER : JOHN HAY LIBRARY : BROWN UNIVERSITY<br>
PROVIDENCE, RI 02912 : 401-863-1187/FAX 863-2093 : RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu
[mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eduardo Tenenbaum<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 15, 2010 9:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'DCRM Revision Group List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] transcription of info following curly bracket<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'>What
happens when, as in Annie’s case, there are 6 names on the other side of the
left brace? I can see supplying “Chez” once (i.e., when two names are listed).
With three or more names, supplying a second or more “Chez” could look silly,
especially when the explanatory note is included.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu
[mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Randal Brandt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 12, 2010 5:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] transcription of info following curly bracket<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Since I actually did catalog this particular example, here's
how I did it:<br>
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A Paris : $b Chez Brunet, libraire, rue de Marivaux, au Théâtre italien : $b
[Chez] Vente, libraire des menus plaisirs du roi, rue des Anglois, près celle
des Noyers, $c MDCCLXXXIII [1783]<br>
<br>
What I did not do, however, was make the note. I'll correct that oversight.
This is a fairly common occurrence in French imprints (I'm not so sure about
other languages), with the individual publishers or booksellers not
grammatically linked in any way except the "Chez" and a brace.<br>
<br>
It will be great to include this and similar types of examples in Examples to
Accompany DCRM(B)!<br>
<br>
Randy<br>
<br>
Deborah J. Leslie wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";
color:#993366'>Yes, Eduardo's right. In that case, I would supply the second
Chez in square brackets as the first word of the second ‡b, and make a note. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#993366'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a
href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eduardo Tenenbaum<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 12 February, 2010 16:47<br>
<b>To:</b> 'DCRM Revision Group List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] transcription of info following curly bracket</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'>I
think Stephen is right, except the second bookseller would be transcribed as a
subsequent statement, i.e. separated by a space-colon-space, yes?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'>(In
the example there’s a full stop after the first bookseller.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'>Eduardo
Tenenbaum</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'>Princeton
University</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a
href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen A Skuce<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 12, 2010 4:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] transcription of info following curly bracket</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don't think we've included a rule for this, and I can't
remember why not, but the practice is pretty clear, I think.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You definitely would not transcribe "Chez" more than
once; it only appears once.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I would give the 260 roughly as:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>$b Chez Brunet Libraire … , Vente Libraire …, $c
MDCCLXXXIII [1783]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>and definitely include a note:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>500 On title page, the publishers are
gathered by a left brace, relating each name to the word "chez."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Stephen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Stephen Skuce</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Cambridge MA 02139-4307</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ann W. Copeland<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 12, 2010 4:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] transcription of info following curly bracket</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>All,<br>
<br>
I remember talking about this question at the time of DCRM(B) publication, but
can't locate the rule. <br>
<br>
In a situation where Chez appears once but is clearly meant to apply to both
names following a left curly bracket, would we supply [Chez] in transcribing
the second name? <br>
<br>
Randy Brandt has supplied a link to an example (THANKS, Randy): <br>
<a
href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/7321780@N05/3927303845/in/set-72157608697679123">http://www.flickr.com/photos/7321780@N05/3927303845/in/set-72157608697679123</a>
<br>
<br>
(Attn: Nina and Eduardo - This would be a good discussion point for the <i>Examples
to Accompany DCRM(B). </i>I have a book with six names following a left curly
bracket!)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Annie Copeland<br>
Penn State University <o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>__________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Randal Brandt<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Principal Cataloger<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>The Bancroft Library<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>(510) 643-2275<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
href="mailto:rbrandt@library.berkeley.edu">rbrandt@library.berkeley.edu</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
href="http://bancroft.berkeley.edu">http://bancroft.berkeley.edu</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>"It's hard enough to remember my opinions without <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>remembering my reasons for them"--The Streets.<o:p></o:p></pre></div>
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