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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Brava Jackie! Right on!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Stephen Young<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu
[mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dooley,Jackie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 23, 2010 5:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Early works to 1800<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>This discussion offers a terrific example of how rare book
catalogers can contribute to simplification of cataloging without sacrificing
useful data: make the blinkin’ subdivision free-floating already! <span
style='font-family:Wingdings'>J</span> Bob, I hope the SAC subcommittee finds a
ton of other subdivisions that can have their application greatly simplified in
addition to this one. Complex nuances such as that currently applied to the
“Early works to 1800” subdivision are the sort of triviality that give
cataloging its well-deserved reputation for excessive complexity—and that
prevent catalogers from fully applying their sophisticated brains to the
aspects of their work that matter.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Lots of other interesting and useful thoughts expressed
throughout this thread too. Kudos to all!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Jackie<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>P.S. Don’t get me started on |x History and |x Sources …<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Jackie Dooley<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Consulting Archivist<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>OCLC Research and the RLG Partnership<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>949.492.5060 (home/office)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>949.295.1529 (mobile)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>dooleyj@oclc.org<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert
Maxwell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 23, 2010 11:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Early works to 1800<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hello, all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I’m on a SAC subcommittee making recommendations for the
disposition of the genre/form subdivisions established as 185 records in the
subject authority file. We’re discussing the subdivision —Early works to 1800
right now.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>First, I assume we want to be able to continue using this as
a subdivision in 650 (etc.), correct?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Second, would there be interest in expanding its scope? At
the moment it’s only allowed “under names of countries, cities, etc., and under
classes of persons, ethnic groups, and topical headings for individual works
written or issued before 1800.” E.g., it can’t be used under names of persons
in 600 fields; in addition, SCM 1576 forbids its use in the following
situations:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>5.
When <span style='background:khaki'>to</span> omit the subdivision</span></i></b><i><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>.</span></i><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> Do not use
the subdivision in situations for which the passage of time is of little
consequence, including the following: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a name=ScmsubjUNDERSCORE10159></a><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>· under names of
persons, corporate bodies (except for geographic names), or individual <span
style='background:khaki'>works</span> (except sacred works) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a name=ScmsubjUNDERSCORE10160></a><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>· historical <span
style='background:khaki'>works</span>; chronologies <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a name=ScmsubjUNDERSCORE10161></a><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>· under headings
with dates, or period subdivisions; under headings with period qualifiers, for
example, <b>Science, Ancient</b> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a name=ScmsubjUNDERSCORE10162></a><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>· <span
style='background:khaki'>works</span> of belles lettres; <span
style='background:khaki'>works</span> about belles lettres<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I would personally like to see the subdivision become completely
free floating, i.e., allowed in any subject string without the omission
requirements of SCM 1576. What do the rest of you think?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Third, would there be interest in establishing the term
“Early works to 1800” (or something similar) as a genre/form term, allowing its
use in 655? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Bob <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Robert L. Maxwell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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