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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>This all sounds excellent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>While the subdivision $vEarly
works to 1800 is being reviewed, is it timely to reconsider its scope in
another respect? The present instruction to apply it to works ‘written or
issued before 1800’ means that it should be applied to any modern edition
of an early text with relevant subject headings. Thus content is the primary
consideration, not form.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Does the rare book
cataloguing community want to retain current usage, to indicate primarily that
the content of the work may be of historical rather than of current interest?
Or would it prefer to restrict the subdivision to works issued before 1800, as
a way of flagging up that the item being catalogued is not borrowable, will
have to be read in an invigilated reading room, etc.? This would turn it into a
form subdivision.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Karen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Dr Karen Attar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Rare Books Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Senate House Library, University
of London<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Senate House<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Malet St<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>London<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>WC1E 7HU<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble,
Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 26 April 2010 15:38<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Early works to 1800<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>As to "Early works...", it looks
as if the community is of one accord. Keep and apply ad lib. If I had my
druthers, one could also or alternatively use "Works, Xth century",
as a more fine-grained way of dating the work, not the publication: very FRBR,
that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:blue'>RICHARD NOBLE : RARE BOOKS CATALOGER : JOHN HAY LIBRARY : BROWN
UNIVERSITY<br>
PROVIDENCE, RI 02912 : 401-863-1187/FAX 863-2093 : RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU </span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";
color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";
color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Randal
Brandt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 23, 2010 5:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Early works to 1800<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I'll keep this simple:<br>
<br>
1. Keep the subdivision: Yes!<br>
2. Expand its scope: Yes!<br>
<br>
Thanks, Bob.<br>
<br>
Randy<br>
<br>
Robert Maxwell wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Hello, all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I’m on a SAC subcommittee making
recommendations for the disposition of the genre/form subdivisions established
as 185 records in the subject authority file. We’re discussing the
subdivision —Early works to 1800 right now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>First, I assume we want to be able to
continue using this as a subdivision in 650 (etc.), correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Second, would there be interest in
expanding its scope? At the moment it’s only allowed “under names
of countries, cities, etc., and under classes of persons, ethnic groups, and
topical headings for individual works written or issued before 1800.”
E.g., it can’t be used under names of persons in 600 fields; in addition,
SCM 1576 forbids its use in the following situations:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New Roman","serif"'>5. When <span style='background:khaki'>to</span>
omit the subdivision</span></i></b><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>.</span></i><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> Do not
use the subdivision in situations for which the passage of time is of little
consequence, including the following: </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a name=ScmsubjUNDERSCORE10159></a><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>· under
names of persons, corporate bodies (except for geographic names), or individual
<span style='background:khaki'>works</span> (except sacred works) </span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a name=ScmsubjUNDERSCORE10160></a><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>· historical
<span style='background:khaki'>works</span>; chronologies </span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a name=ScmsubjUNDERSCORE10161></a><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>· under
headings with dates, or period subdivisions; under headings with period
qualifiers, for example, <b>Science, Ancient</b> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a name=ScmsubjUNDERSCORE10162></a><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>· <span
style='background:khaki'>works</span> of belles lettres; <span
style='background:khaki'>works</span> about belles lettres</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I would personally like to see the
subdivision become completely free floating, i.e., allowed in any subject
string without the omission requirements of SCM 1576. What do the rest of you
think?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Third, would there be interest in
establishing the term “Early works to 1800” (or something similar)
as a genre/form term, allowing its use in 655? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Bob <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Robert
L. Maxwell</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Special
Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Genre/Form
Authorities Librarian</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>6728
Harold B. Lee Library</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Brigham
Young University</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Provo,
UT 84602</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>(801)422-5568
</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<pre><span lang=EN-US>-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US>__________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
lang=EN-US>Randal Brandt<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US>Principal Cataloger<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
lang=EN-US>The Bancroft Library<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-US>(510) 643-2275<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
lang=EN-US><a href="mailto:rbrandt@library.berkeley.edu">rbrandt@library.berkeley.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
lang=EN-US><a href="http://bancroft.berkeley.edu">http://bancroft.berkeley.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
lang=EN-US>"It's hard enough to remember my opinions without <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
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