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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>At the risk of sounding like a penny-pinching administrator, I
would argue that the situation Deborah outlines below is one that NO amount of standardized
MARC cataloging can easily explain. There will ALWAYS be oddities in printed
books that require direct questions beyond what it is the catalog record, no
matter how complex. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Might catalogers&#8217; time be better spent creating records
which do not *<b>lie</b>* about what is in the book, but do not attempt to
explain every possible detail? A follow up question from a researcher, perhaps
requesting additional clarification or to have something scanned, might take
less time, even if it happens every few years, than hours of agonizing over how
to represent the document, how to abbreviate it, how to pay for the education
to know how to abbreviate it, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Of course, in an ideal world, our records could link to some of
this additional information much more easily. In my lifetime, I hope!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Beth<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah
J. Leslie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 27, 2010 11:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] BYU's 1st RDA/DCRMB record<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";
color:#1F497D'>Richard's reply is well worth reading. I think Henry Raine's
points, too, deserve more prominence. The more needlessly complex certain
actions are--in this case, turning away from a compact and relatively easily
parse-able statement about how many leaves a book has and what that book says
about how many leaves it has, towards something with lots of verbiage that
makes it harder to create and harder to read&#8212;the more we open ourselves
to mistakes and the greater necessity for additional proofreading, all simultaneous
with shrinking staffs, as Brian Hillyard has pointed out. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";
color:#1F497D'>I know not every place is like the Folger, but I sometimes
receive specific questions about minute details on our cataloging records.
[Here is an excerpt from one awaiting my attention: </span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif"'>In one of the
copies of the 1589 edition that the Folger holds there are two versions of
Jerome Bowes' account of his embassy to Russia, with similar pagination (pp.
491-496 and pp. 491-501). The first seems to have been pasted in, whereas the
second looks like its part of the print run for this edition. The first is the
original account of Bowes himself, the other is an anonymous third person
account of his embassy.] <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";
color:#1F497D'>Richard is asking the right questions. <i>Why</i> do we own rare
materials? <i>Who</i> is using them? For <i>what</i>? Are they finding what
they need? If so, <i>how</i>? If not, <i>why</i> not? It is only within the
context of these questions and the answers to them that we, the rare materials
cataloging community, can intelligently approach our response to RDA, and how
much of its lead we will follow as the base cataloging source from which our
rules are drawn.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>_________________________</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <br>
</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. <br>
RBMS past chair 2010-2011 | Head of Cataloging, Folger Shakespeare Library <br>
201 East Capitol St., S.E. | Washington, D.C. 20003 | 202.675-0369 <br>
djleslie@folger.edu | <a href="http://www.folger.edu/">http://www.folger.edu</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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