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<body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple>Deborah is too kind. I did not misunderstand. Rather, I took the opportunity to jump up on my tiny soapbox and rant a little. And I'm going to do it again!<br/><br/>Of course we have researchers who need those kinds of details. They also need better wireless in our reading rooms, more support for teaching with original resources, and, if you're somewhere other than the Folger, they also need a way to find examples of lesbian vampire fiction in languages other than English. Or photographs of African American military from the Korean War wearing civilian clothes.<br/>I don't have a dog in this fight, thank goodness. I remain conflicted about RDA while managing at the same time to keep myself ignorant of its development. I just worry that we are losing sight of the forest for the trees.<br/><br/>Rant over! I'll now leave the discussion to people who still catalog rare materials for a living.<p> <br/>Beth M. Whittaker<br/>Head, Spencer Research Library<br/>University of Kansas<br/>785-864-4275<br/><br/>Sent from my mobile, so please forgive my typing.</p><hr/><div><b>From: </b> "Deborah J. Leslie" &lt;DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu&gt;
</div><div><b>Sender: </b> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu
</div><div><b>Date: </b>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:52:48 -0400</div><div><b>To: </b>DCRM Revision Group List&lt;dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu&gt;</div><div><b>ReplyTo: </b> DCRM Revision Group List &lt;dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu&gt;
</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [DCRM-L] BYU's 1st RDA/DCRMB record</div><div><br/></div>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";
color:#993366'>If Beth misunderstood my point, I expect others do, too. I included
the query to show that there are some readers who <i>do</i> care about such
details, not that the catalog record should have been able to answer her
question before it was asked. The larger implicit point is that although
perhaps the majority of end-users don't care about how many pages there are,
numbered or unnumbered, but that there are some who do, as well as those of us
who are responsible for buying, inventorying, and making collections available.
If in your library, you're buying only for content and it doesn't matter which
edition, issue, or printing you have, maybe having an accurate page-count doesn't
matter, either. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#993366'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";
color:#993366'>But then I have to ask the question: if that's the situation,
why catalog with DCRM(B)? <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#993366'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Whittaker,
Beth M<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 27 August, 2010 12:30<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] BYU's 1st RDA/DCRMB record<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>At the risk of sounding like a penny-pinching administrator, I
would argue that the situation Deborah outlines below is one that NO amount of
standardized MARC cataloging can easily explain. There will ALWAYS be oddities
in printed books that require direct questions beyond what it is the catalog
record, no matter how complex. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Might catalogers&#8217; time be better spent creating records
which do not *<b>lie</b>* about what is in the book, but do not attempt to
explain every possible detail? A follow up question from a researcher, perhaps
requesting additional clarification or to have something scanned, might take less
time, even if it happens every few years, than hours of agonizing over how to
represent the document, how to abbreviate it, how to pay for the education to
know how to abbreviate it, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Of course, in an ideal world, our records could link to some of
this additional information much more easily. In my lifetime, I hope!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Beth<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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