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<p class=MsoNormal>Now that the holidays and ALA Midwinter are behind us, discussions
of proposed changes (“DPCs”) to DCRM language are back in season. Many
thanks to those of you who were able to attend the DCRM(G) public hearing in
San Diego last weekend. And for those who weren’t, the 20 or 30 people at
the hearing thought there were a couple of changes worth considering. The
first one has to do with the prescribed use of “et al.” when exercising
the option to omit all names after the third in a lengthy statement of
responsibility.<br>
<br>
As discussed at the hearing, in 1E5 it would be useful to state the number of
names omitted when exercising the option to omit all names after the third, but
the instruction says to use the AACR2-mandated “et al.” instead. Note
that stating the number of names omitted IS done when optionally omitting names
of publishers after the third, in 4C6.2, e.g. “Printed for F.C. and J.
Rivington, Otridge and Son, J. Nichols and Co. ... [and 26 others].” Also
note that the instruction in 1E5 already differs from AACR2, where “et
al.” is added after the first name, not the third.<br>
<br>
Below is the proposed change in html, with old text crossed out and new text
underlined. The new text comes from the existing wording of DCRM 4C6.2. The
example comes from the DCRM(G) draft.<br>
<br>
<span class=normalitalic><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Optionally</span></span>,
if the responsible persons or bodies named in a single statement are considered
too numerous to list exhaustively, all after the third may be omitted. Indicate
the omission by the mark of omission and supply <s>“et al.”</s> in
square brackets <u>a phrase in the language and script of the cataloging agency
to convey the extent of the omission</u>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=Example>/ idee e motti di Giannino Antona-Traversi ; disegni di G.
Ardy, A. Bonzagni, A. Cagnoni ... [and 7 others] ; sculture di V. Franco<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><br>
Below is the original text followed by the proposed change for anyone with
plain-text e-mail who can’t see the crossed out “et al.” and
underlined “a phrase in....” above: <br>
<br>
ORIGINAL: Optionally, if the responsible persons or bodies named in a single
statement are considered too numerous to list exhaustively, all after the third
may be omitted. Indicate the omission by the mark of omission and supply
“et al.” in square brackets.<br>
<br>
PROPOSED CHANGE: Optionally, if the responsible persons or bodies named in a
single statement are considered too numerous to list exhaustively, all after
the third may be omitted. Indicate the omission by the mark of omission and
supply in square brackets a phrase in the language and script of the cataloging
agency to convey the extent of the omission.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Personally, I also think the mark of omission is incorrect (or
at least redundant) in these cases because both “[et al.]” and “[and
7 others]” convey the ENTIRE omission. Including “...”
implies that even more information has been omitted. I think RDA has improved
on AACR2 by changing the optional omission instruction to “Indicate the
omission by summarizing what has been omitted in the language and script
preferred by the agency preparing the description” with the example “Roger
Colbourne [and six others]” -- that is, no mark of omission in addition
to the bracketed statement. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Unless continued discussion indicates additional time is
needed, members of the Bibliographic Standards Committee will be asked to vote
on the issue on Monday, January 24.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>What do you think?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> EB.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>--------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Erin C. Blake, Ph.D. | Curator of Art &
Special Collections | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201
E. Capitol St. SE | Washington, DC 20003-1004 | office tel.
(202) 675-0323 | fax: (202) 675-0328 |
eblake@folger.edu | www.folger.edu<o:p></o:p></p>
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