<html><head><base href="x-msg://29/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Since you have a gathering of 12 leaves, the superscript will be 12. I’d use A^12 (A9 etc. signed B1 etc.). It seems an unlikely 12mo; rather more likely an 8vo.<div><br></div><div>You can’t record the collation as two gatherings of 8 and 4 - the collation has to reflect the physical makeup, not the signing. It’s a single gathering, whatever the printed signatures. You can make more extensive notes about the signing if that seems useful.<br><div><br></div><div>Various scenarios can be imagined (e.g. pages made up to be imposed as a full sheet and half sheet, and then a decision made to arrange them differently to make sewing easier; an earlier printing from the same type was done as a separate full sheet and half sheet), but these seem odd and unlikely.</div><div><br></div><div>What’s the content of the pamphlet?</div><div><br></div><div>John Lancaster</div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Robert Maxwell wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Bell MT'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Hello, all,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I have a pamphlet printed in Caen, France in 1811 that is signed A⁸ B⁴; however there is really only one gathering of twelve leaves. B1 is conjoint with A4; A1 is conjoint with B4. Chain lines are vertical. I don’t find a watermark. The page height is just over 21 cm; I don’t believe it’s been trimmed.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">First, is this 12mo? It seems a little big. How do I write the signatures note? “Signatures: A⁸ B⁴” doesn’t seem to explain what is going on.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Bob<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Robert L. Maxwell<br>Head, Special Collections and Formats Catalog Dept.<br>6728 Harold B. Lee Library<br>Brigham Young University<br>Provo, UT 84602<br>(801)422-5568</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>