<font size="2"><font face="georgia,serif">How does the online captivity of <i>SCF</i> accomplish the stated principle "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 15px; ">Provide more FREE publications". </span></font></font><font face="'courier new', monospace"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: georgia, serif; "> By bundling <i>SCF</i> into Cat DeskTop, with a plethora of resources in which many of potential users would have little interest, CDS has managed to limit access to a select group of library catalogers. That professional silo <i>may</i> be the whole market, but why contrive to unmarket it, so to speak? It makes no business sense, among the other sorts of sense that it doesn't make.</span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: georgia, serif; "> Moreover, CDS have, in a sense, asserted a <i>de facto</i> total copyright in a work that is public domain in the USA.</span><div>
<font face="'courier new', monospace"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: georgia, serif; "><br></span></font></div><div><font face="'courier new', monospace"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: georgia, serif; ">Is there any chance that RBMS and ACRL could weigh in on this? I don't think it serves anything like the whole of RBMS's constituency.</span><br>
</font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'courier new', monospace"><br></font></div><div><font face="'courier new', monospace">RICHARD NOBLE : RARE BOOKS CATALOGER : JOHN HAY LIBRARY : BROWN UNIVERSITY<br>
PROVIDENCE, RI 02912 : 401-863-1187/FAX 863-3384 : <a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" target="_blank">RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU</a> </font><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Fletcher, Jain <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jfletchr@library.ucla.edu">jfletchr@library.ucla.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D">Hi, everyone,<br> I don’t know if you have seen this yet (its off-putting “all caps” subject line might have actually made people ignore it, rather than pay attn), but this is a really interesting message. As I scanned down the list, most of the items made sense, because they are updated at various intervals and they are all available on Cat DeskTop, where the updates show instantaneously. I was kind of worried that we’d see our DCRMs there, but I didn’t, so was relieved. On the other hand, I do see the <i>Standard Citations</i> there. Hmmmmmm. It definitely “fits the bill” of being updated often and therefore resolves the problem of the print version being out of kilter with the DeskTop version, but with the new edition in the offing, I wonder if BSC wants to think about this a little further and either advocate for continued printing or perhaps even for a new publisher. This is just a thought.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D"> But I also do still wonder about the rest of our DCRMs. Not everyone who uses BSC’s cataloging guidelines has access to DeskTop and for DCRM(M), we have imagined that some of our music users might work for smaller institutions that cannot afford DeskTop subscriptions. That’s why we’d really like to continue with the print option along with the DeskTop option (and besides, we want our teal cover! ;-) The reason that I am thinking about this is because I am not sure that CDS is thoroughly aware that more DCRMs are coming their way. Perhaps they would have considered including them on this list if they had had them solidly on their radar. So, I am not thoroughly sure that we can be relieved that they are not included here…<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D"> (The late <i>SF Chronicle</i> columnist, Herb Caen, used to give subheadings to his paragraphs; one of his common ones was “Sodden thought” [used in kind of a downer kind of way; it alludes to something akin to “raining on the parade”]. I could have used that for my subject line, but then you never would have understood its meaning and probably would have even less inclined to read it than with the current one. Anyway, I apologize for being the bearer of this “sodden thought”, but I thought this was worth bringing up…) --Jain<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:blue">Jain Fletcher<br>Principal Cataloger & Head, Technical Services Division <br>
Department of Special Collections <br>Young Research Library - UCLA Box 951575<br>Los Angeles, CA 90095-1575</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:blue">v: (310) 794-4096<br>f: (310) 206-1864<br>e: </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue"><a href="mailto:jfletchr@library.ucla.edu" title="mailto:jfletchr@library.ucla.edu" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif"">jfletchr@library.ucla.edu</span></a> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-left:.5in;text-align:center"><span style="font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:blue"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-left:.5in;text-align:center">
<span style="font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:blue">..-.:~*~:._,_.:~*~:._,_.:~*~:._,_.:~*~:._,_.:~*~:._,_.:~*~:.-.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB","serif";color:#1F497D"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-align:center;line-height:115%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Papyrus;color:#7030A0">Pedantry and mastery are opposite attitudes toward rules. <br>
To apply a rule to the letter, rigidly, unquestioningly, in cases where it fits and in cases where it does not fit, is pedantry... <br>To apply a rule with natural ease, with judgment, noticing the cases where it fits, and without ever letting the words of the rule obscure the purpose of the action or the opportunities of the situation, is mastery. <u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-align:center;line-height:115%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Papyrus;color:#7030A0">George Polya, professor of mathematics (1887-1985)<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:<a href="mailto:PCCLIST@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV" target="_blank">PCCLIST@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank, Paul<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 08, 2011 5:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:PCCLIST@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV" target="_blank">PCCLIST@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV</a><br><b>Subject:</b> FW: CATALOGING DISTRIBUTION SERVICE - PRINT PRODUCT UPDATE<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Forwarded from the Library of Congress Cataloging Distribution Service News and Announcements listserv. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Cataloging Distribution Service News and Announcements -- NOT a discussion list [mailto:<a href="mailto:CDSNEWS@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV" target="_blank">CDSNEWS@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Seligman, Peter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 08, 2011 8:15 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:CDSNEWS@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV" target="_blank">CDSNEWS@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [CDSNews] CATALOGING DISTRIBUTION SERVICE - PRINT PRODUCT UPDATE<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center">Library of Congress<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center">News from CDS<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">CATALOGING DISTRIBUTION SERVICE - PRINT PRODUCT UPDATE<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">(July 8, 2011) - Cataloging Distribution Service is discontinuing some print publications and will deliver more content online in electronic formats (PDFs, HTMLs and Microsoft Word). This announcement lists print publications that will no longer be available. Our decision is intended to: <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">1. Improve access to content updates and <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">2. Provide more FREE publications <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">To find online links to electronic formats, visit <a href="http://www.loc.gov/cds" target="_blank">www.loc.gov/cds</a>, click “Find Products <br>
& Services,” and select a product. A hyperlink will be located at the end of the product webpage<i>.<u></u><u></u></i></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Most publications continue through your web-based Cataloger’s Desktop<i> </i>subscription. Accessible 24/7, Cataloger’s Desktop provides cataloging and metadata resources in English and non-English languages. To learn more about Cataloger’s Desktop, visit <u><span style="color:blue"><a href="http://www.loc.gov/cds/desktop/" target="_blank">www.loc.gov/cds/desktop/</a></span></u>.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">CATALOGING PRODUCTS <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Discontinued:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- Cataloging Service Bulletin (CSB) - The last issue was #128 (from the 2010 subscription). All back issues are available for free at <a href="http://www.loc.gov/cds/PDFdownloads/csb/index.html" target="_blank">www.loc.gov/cds/PDFdownloads/csb/index.html</a>. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- Library of Congress Rule Interpretations. The last combined update (No. 1-2) and Update 3 were published in 2010. LCRIs have been superseded by Library<br>of Congress Policy Statements. LCPSs are available for free at <a href="http://www.loc.gov/aba" target="_blank">www.loc.gov/aba</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Discontinued as Stand-Alone Print Products: <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- <span style="color:black">Free-</span>Floating Subdivisions: An Alphabetical Index- The final stand-alone edition was published May 2011 and is available while stock lasts. The information continues to be available as part of the Library of Congress Subject Headings<i> </i>and in Cataloger’s Desktop<i>. </i><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- LC Subject Headings Supplemental Vocabularies- This publication is conveniently part of the Library of Congress Subject Headings<i> </i>and Cataloger’s Desktop<i>. </i><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> <u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Discontinued in Print:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- LC Classification: A Content Analysis<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- <span style="color:black">LC Subject Headings Principles of Structure</span><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- Standard Citation Forms for Published Bibliographies and Catalogs Used in Rare Books Cataloging- This publication is available only through your Cataloger’s Desktop<i> </i>subscription.<i> </i><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">MARC 21 PRODUCTS<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Discontinued in Print:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- MARC 21 Authority Format<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- MARC 21 Bibliographic Format<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- MARC 21 Holdings Format<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- MARC 21 Classification Format<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- MARC 21 Community Information Format<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The last print update for the 5 format documents was Update No. 10/11. Update <br>No. 12 and future updates may be printed from the HTML pages noted below. Consult the “format changes” appendix for each online format document for guidance on the fields and other areas of the format that have changes.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- MARC 21 Code Lists for Languages <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- MARC 21 Code Lists for Geographic Areas <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- MARC 21 Code Lists for Countries<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- MARC 21 Specifications<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">All MARC 21 format, code list, and specification documentation is available for free via HTML at <a href="http://www.loc.gov/marc/" target="_blank">/www.loc.gov/marc</a>. The code lists are additionally available at <u><span style="color:blue"><a href="http://id.loc.gov" target="_blank">http://id.loc.gov</a> </span></u>or through your <i>Cataloger’s Desktop</i> subscription.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Print Product Change:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-- MARC Concise- This print product will contain Authority, Bibliographic and Holdings formats beginning with the 2011 edition.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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