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I second Bob's vote. I took a look at our catalog and, alas, we've
been inconsistent. But, recent records have the subfield a-b-d
construction.<br>
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Randy<br>
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On 12/6/2011 11:48 AM, Robert Maxwell wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I vote for<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">752
Australia ‡b Victoria ‡d Melbourne.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">It’s consistent
with the way you (and we) treat other countries such as the
U.S. and not dependent on the vagaries of LC subject
subdivision practice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Special
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Genre/Form
Authorities Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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UT 84602<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">"We
should set an example for all the world, rather than
confine ourselves to the course which has been
heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah J. Leslie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'DCRM Revision Group List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Australian cities in field 752<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">We
are adding 752's to all our editions of Shakespeare, and I'm
a little perplexed on how to render Australian cities in
hierarchical form. Australia is treated strangely in AACR2,
because the cities are qualified by the state instead of the
country, but in subdivisions, Australia comes first: from
the NAR for Melbourne:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">151
Melbourne (Vic.)
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">781
0</span><span style="font-family:"Lucida Sans
Unicode","sans-serif"">ǂ</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">z
Australia
</span><span style="font-family:"Lucida Sans
Unicode","sans-serif"">ǂ</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">z
Melbourne (Vic.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Contrast
this to the NAR for San Francisco, which goes straight into
first order political division:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">151
San Francisco (Calif.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">781
0</span><span style="font-family:"Lucida Sans
Unicode","sans-serif"">ǂ</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">z
California
</span><span style="font-family:"Lucida Sans
Unicode","sans-serif"">ǂ</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">z
San Francisco<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Or
for Heidelberg, with no intervening state or province:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">151
Hamburg (Germany)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">781
0</span><span style="font-family:"Lucida Sans
Unicode","sans-serif"">ǂ</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">z
Germany
</span><span style="font-family:"Lucida Sans
Unicode","sans-serif"">ǂ</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">z
Hamburg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">As
do many institutions, we use the country name even for
countries that are subdivided and qualified by their first
order political division:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">752
United States ‡b California ‡d San Francisco.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Given
all this, what makes most sense?:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">752
Australia
</span><span style="font-family:"Lucida Sans
Unicode","sans-serif"">ǂb</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">
Melbourne (Vic.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">or
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">752
Australia ‡b Victoria ‡d Melbourne.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
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