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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Perhaps Yale is unaware of the SCF efforts…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Nina<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> lauctalk-bounces@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:lauctalk-bounces@lists.ucla.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brunner, Marta<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 27, 2012 3:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'lauctalk@lists.ucla.edu'<br><b>Subject:</b> [lauctalk] FW: Cloth vs. paper - a new consideration<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m wondering if any of you have come across this practice of abridging bibliographies in paper editions of scholarly books. I couldn’t get the links below to work, so I used GOBI and, sure enough, the cloth edition has 86 pages of bibliography vs. 5 pages in the paper edition. Something to consider, for sure, but I wonder how pervasive it is. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Marta<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Kimberly Garmoe <a href="mailto:[mailto:kimberly.garmoe@gmail.com]">[mailto:kimberly.garmoe@gmail.com]</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 27, 2012 2:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> Brunner, Marta<br><b>Subject:</b> Fwd: Cloth vs. paper - a new consideration<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Have you heard of this????<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sorry I couldn't stop to say hello. The lab resources are great!<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b>From:</b> "Jackson, Mildred" <<a href="mailto:mljackson@UA.EDU">mljackson@UA.EDU</a>><br><b>Date:</b> January 27, 2012 1:28:46 PM PST<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:SHARP-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU">SHARP-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:</b> <b>FW: Cloth vs. paper - a new consideration</b><br><b>Reply-To:</b> "SHARP-L Society for the History of Authorship, Reading & Publishing" <<a href="mailto:SHARP-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU">SHARP-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<br>One of my librarians brought this to my attention today. Has anyone seen this in books? I had not yet. Which presses are doing this? thank you, Millie<br><br>Mildred L. Jackson, Ph.D.<br>Associate Dean for Research & Instruction<br>The University of Alabama Libraries<br>Box 870266<br>Tuscaloosa, AL 35487-0266<br>phone: (205)348-5008<br>fax: (205)348-8833<br><a href="mailto:mljackson@ua.edu">mljackson@ua.edu</a><br><br>From: Mcclure, Jennifer<br>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 2:57 PM<br>To: Jackson, Mildred<br>Subject: Cloth vs. paper - a new consideration<br><br>Millie,<br><br>I've just finished reading a 2010 paper edition of a book published by Yale University Press. I was surprised to find this statement at the beginning of the bibliography:<br><br>"This is a very select list of some of the more significant works referred to in this book. Most books, and all journal articles, included in the bibliography of the hardback edition have here been omitted for reasons of space. The full bibliography can be found at <a href="http://www.iainmcgilcrist.com/TMAHE/biblio">www.iainmcgilcrist.com/TMAHE/biblio</a><<a href="http://www.iainmcgilcrist.com/TMAHE/biblio">http://www.iainmcgilcrist.com/TMAHE/biblio</a>> or <a href="http://www.yalebooks.co.uk/mcgilchrist">www.yalebooks.co.uk/mcgilchrist</a><<a href="http://www.yalebooks.co.uk/mcgilchrist">http://www.yalebooks.co.uk/mcgilchrist</a>>."<br><br>Because the author uses very spare author/date citations (e.g., "Crow, 2006, p. 793"), it is impossible to track most references via the paper edition. I wonder whether the complete online information will be available to a reader 5-10 years from now. I believe the University of Chicago has also adopted this practice-perhaps others as well. It distresses me to think that our paper-preferred policy is yielding incomplete books, lacking essential scholarly material. Do you know anything about this? Is it a common practice? If so, we might want to reconsider our paper-preferred policy, at least for these presses. In the case of this book, the cloth edition cost only $13 more than the paper.<br><br>Also, though less significant, I noticed that the inside margins of this book are less than ¼ inch wide in some places. This made it very hard to read and will make rebinding impossible.<br><br>Jennifer<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>