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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Lancaster<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 17, 2012 9:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Clarification of leaves and pages (6JSC/LC/21 Clarification of leaves and pages<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">The revision seems to say that if leaves are printed on both sides, the extent should be given in pages, regardless of how they are numbered. Which makes no sense. And why, if we need to be told what pagination
and foliation consist of, aren’t we also told how to record column numbers?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Also, do they really mean “e.g.” (= for example) rather than “i.e.” (= that is)? What other choices are there besides being printed on both sides or on one side?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">This revision seems less a clarification than obfuscation.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">John Lancaster<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "Lapka, Francis" <<a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu">francis.lapka@yale.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Subscribers to this list may be interested in a proposal from the Library of Congress to “clarify” the definitions of the terms “leaves” and “pages”
in RDA. The proposed revisions are as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">3.4.5.2 Single Volume With Numbered Pages, Leaves, or Columns</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">a)</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">If the volume is paginated (<s>i.e.,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Glossary</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Subscribers to the PCC-list may have already read a healthy discussion on this issue at the beginning of the month. Bob Maxwell offered good arguments
for why the proposed modification may be detrimental. Liz O’Keefe noted that the proposed definition for leaf would exclude manuscripts that are neither bound nor fastened together. For those not subscribed to the PCC list, a summary of comments is available
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