<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Georgia;
panose-1:2 4 5 2 5 4 5 2 3 3;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Balloon Text Char";
margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
p.MsoListParagraph, li.MsoListParagraph, div.MsoListParagraph
{mso-style-priority:34;
margin-top:0in;
margin-right:0in;
margin-bottom:0in;
margin-left:.5in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";}
span.EmailStyle18
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:windowtext;}
span.EmailStyle19
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:"Georgia","serif";
font-variant:normal !important;
color:#1F497D;
text-transform:none;
text-shadow:none;
font-weight:normal;
font-style:normal;
text-decoration:none none;
vertical-align:baseline;}
span.BalloonTextChar
{mso-style-name:"Balloon Text Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Balloon Text";
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
span.EmailStyle22
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
/* List Definitions */
@list l0
{mso-list-id:225923780;
mso-list-type:hybrid;
mso-list-template-ids:-1006966838 67698703 67698689 67698715 67698703 67698713 67698715 67698703 67698713 67698715;}
@list l0:level1
{mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level2
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:\F0B7;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level3
{mso-level-tab-stop:1.5in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level4
{mso-level-tab-stop:2.0in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level5
{mso-level-tab-stop:2.5in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level6
{mso-level-tab-stop:3.0in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level7
{mso-level-tab-stop:3.5in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level8
{mso-level-tab-stop:4.0in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
@list l0:level9
{mso-level-tab-stop:4.5in;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;}
ol
{margin-bottom:0in;}
ul
{margin-bottom:0in;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Deborah, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I had one more question on that point that relates to setting up NACO headings. I have transcribed an author’s name as Iacobus Theuart based on the DCRM(b) rules. But the established heading for the person sets
it up as Jacobus Thevart (actually, that’s the 400 for the established form Jacques). Would you consider it worthwhile to add another 400 Theuart, Iacobus?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I suppose maybe I should send this question to the PCC list, but since you answered my question about the transcription, I thought it would be good to ask you. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Ted Gemberling<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">UAB Lister Hill Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">(205)934-2461<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah J. Leslie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 16, 2012 12:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Confused by transcription of i/j and u/v<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Dear Ted,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">You have interpreted the instructions correctly. Good work!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">There are three categories only of “typeface” in latin alphabets in this context: roman, italic, and gothic. Instances of upper- or lower-case do not change their basic typeface
category. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">My steps for transcribing I V i j u v:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Do I need to convert case according to AACR2 Appendix A? No? Transcribe letter and case as it appears (keeping in mind the tricky circumstances of upper-case gothic)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">If I do need to convert the case of an I, V, i, j, u, or v: determine the typeface, function, and position of letter to be transcribed
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">is the letter in roman, italic, or gothic?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">does the letter function as a consonant or a vowel?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">is it positioned in the initial, medial, or final position of the word?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Then I find usage in the text usage of that letter in the same typeface, function, and position in the case in which I must render it.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Most conversion involves transcribing ‘V’ to either ‘u’ or ‘v’ <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Most of the time, as Ted mentions in his book, ‘v’ is used in the initial position, while ‘u’ is used elsewhere, regardless of whether the V v u is functioning as a consonant
or vowell. English examples: vsury, nauigation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">A good deal of the time, the usage of the letter in the text in the same typeface, function, and position can be found on the title page itself, or within the preliminaries.
If found, run with it: don’t go looking for confirmation elsewhere in the text. <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">‘ii’ or ‘ij’—frequently needed to transcribe place names in Latin--can be challenging to find in the text. Some catalogers in the old days (I’m looking at myself) have
been known to spend 30 or 40 minutes trying to find the printer’s usage of ii or ij in the text<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Now, I have a rule of thumb for myself and the catalogers’ I supervise: If after 5 minutes, I haven’t found the corresponding usage, I go to the table.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">This happens in even less than 5 minutes when cataloging something common in Italian imprints: the title page is in roman, but the text is entirely in italic. If the printer’s
roman usage cannot be found on the title page, then you can’t use the italic text to verify it—you must go directly to the table.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Happy Transcribing!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#215868">Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. | Head of Cataloging, Folger Shakespeare Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#215868"><a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu"><span style="color:#215868;text-decoration:none">djleslie@folger.edu</span></a> | 202.675-0369 |
<a href="http://www.folger.edu">www.folger.edu</a></span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ted P Gemberling<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 15 November, 2012 15:55<br>
<b>To:</b> 'DCRM Revision Group List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Confused by transcription of i/j and u/v<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I find this a difficult part of the DRBM(b) instructions to understand. In particular, I don’t understand the example on p. 35 (rule 0G2.2). The rule says “follow the pattern of usage in the publication being described.” For instructions
on how to do so, it says to consult Appendix G.4. But G.4.2 says examine the usage in each typeface in the book. Maybe I’m confused about how to know when one typeface ends and another begins. Are all the letters in the “source” in 0G2.2 roman, whether capitalized
or not? The comment says that the body of the book uses u where V is used in the first few words of the title, so all the V’s are converted to u’s in transcription. So if the book is all in roman type, then the majority determines which to use?
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am cataloging a book that has been transcribed in two different ways. Some catalogers have used: Gvlielmi Ballonii … Consiliorvm medicinalivm libri II. Others, Gulielmi Ballonii ... Consiliorum medicinalium libri II. Now, the fact is
that those first words of the title page are in all caps and only v is used. But in the following lower case lettering, v is used in initial position and u everywhere else. So am I right to assume that’s the pattern of usage I should follow? I’ve also noticed
the printer used ‘ij’ at the end of words, so I’m guessing the title page should be transcribed:
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Gulielmi Ballonij ... Consiliorum medicinalium libri II<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(I will remove the sign of omission: I know we’re not supposed to delete any of the first five words of a title.)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe I answered my own questions, but it would be helpful if someone would confirm whether I understood those things correctly.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ted Gemberling<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">UAB Lister Hill Library<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(205)934-2461<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
</body>
</html>