<font><font face="georgia,serif">Well, right you are. It goes all the way back to 1993. I now recall having seen it, and still passed up the chance of asking what the 500 note "Press figures" actually refers to.</font></font><div>
<font><font face="georgia,serif"><br></font></font></div><div><font><font face="georgia,serif">In the ISTC description of this book (</font></font><font face="georgia, serif">ib00607000) </font><font><font face="georgia,serif">there's a note from BMC, "</font></font><font face="georgia, serif">The quire signatures, in multiple sequences of the first seven letters of the alphabet, are perhaps early press figures (BMC)". This simply baffles me--quire signatures and press figures are not the same thing at all. A recent dealer description notes (from the French) "The unusual collation of this edition--the quires are signed with the first seven letters of the alphabet in disorderly fashion [pas de bon ordre]--has the result that copies are not always made up the same way", which likewise suggests that "press figures" refers to something quite other than a numeral or other symbol in the direction line that identifies the pressmen who printed a given forme, that being what the 655 term actually refers to.</font></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Schneider, Nina <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu" target="_blank">nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I see what you mean... the 2nd edition of the Examples – from which we used for the first 48 examples – actually has a 500 note about press figures. Either
this 500 note was inadvertently missed or was somehow deleted from one of the drafts. Sorry about that.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Nina M. Schneider<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 10, 2013 7:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Press figures in an incunable??<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">I've just added DCRM(B) Examples to my Cataloger's Desktop preferences, and in Example 1 see that there's a 655 for "Press figures". That represents a significant bibliographical discovery, to
say the least, since press figures were used only by British printers from the late C17 into the third decade of the C19 (plus a couple of late C18 Philadelphia printers).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Sorry to bring this up--I probably didn't take advantage of an opportunity to review. I know that the examples are more an illustration of the treatment of information, rather than the nature
of the information treated, but this is odd.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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