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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Auyong, Dorothy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 14 February 2013 15:11<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] DCRM(B) 4D1.3-4D1.4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And now, the elephant in the room. How would we encode that nicely elegant transcription into the new RDA 264 MARC format?
<a href="http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd264.html">http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd264.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dorothy Auyong<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Principal Rare Book Cataloger<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Henry E. Huntington Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 14, 2013 7:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] DCRM(B) 4D1.3-4D1.4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Another second--and I've added this as an example in my copy of DCRM(B). ESTC's transcription exemplifies the potential awkwardess that 4C3 addresses.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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PROVIDENCE, RI 02912 : 401-863-1187/FAX 863-3384 : <a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" target="_blank">
RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Lenore Rouse <<a href="mailto:rouse@cua.edu" target="_blank">rouse@cua.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Option 3 seems clearest to me.<span style="color:#888888"><br>
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<span class="hoenzb">RBSC Blog: <a href="http://ascendonica.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">
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On 2/13/2013 6:56 PM, Randal Brandt wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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I am cataloging a pamphlet that has a confusingly constructed imprint. DCRM(B) 4D1.3 and 4D1.4 do not quite address this situation. The title in question is "An Heroic Epistle to an Unfortunate Monarch by Peregrine the Elder [i.e. William Combe]," 1778; ESTC
T36159: <a href="http://estc.bl.uk/T36159" target="_blank">http://estc.bl.uk/T36159</a><br>
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The imprint reads (with line breaks and original punctuation and capitalization):<br>
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LONDON:<br>
Printed in the YEAR M DCC LXXVIII.<br>
And may be had of E. Benson, No. 13, PATER-NOSTER-ROW.<br>
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Reading DCRM(B), I see three possible transcriptions:<br>
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1) London : $b And may be had of E. Benson, No. 13, Pater-Noster-Row, $c printed in the year MDCCLXXVIII [1778]<br>
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2) London : $b [s.n.], $c printed in the year MDCCLXXVIII [1778], and may be had of E. Benson, No. 13, Pater-Noster-Row.<br>
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3) London : $b Printed in the year MDCCLXXVIII, and may be had of E. Benson, No. 13, Pater-Noster-Row, $c [1778]<br>
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ESTC went with option 1 above (without the transposition note), but I'm leaning towards option 3. What sayeth the collective wisdom?<br>
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