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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And now, the elephant in the room. How would we encode that
nicely elegant transcription into the new RDA 264 MARC format? <a
href="http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd264.html">http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd264.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dorothy Auyong<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Principal Rare Book Cataloger<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Henry E. Huntington Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>dauyong@huntington.org <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu
[mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 14, 2013 7:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] DCRM(B) 4D1.3-4D1.4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Another
second--and I've added this as an example in my copy of DCRM(B). ESTC's
transcription exemplifies the potential awkwardess that 4C3 addresses.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>RICHARD
NOBLE : RARE BOOKS CATALOGER : JOHN HAY LIBRARY : BROWN UNIVERSITY<br>
PROVIDENCE, RI 02912 : 401-863-1187/FAX 863-3384 : <a
href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" target="_blank">RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU</a>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:22 AM,
Lenore Rouse <<a href="mailto:rouse@cua.edu" target="_blank">rouse@cua.edu</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Option 3 seems clearest to me.<span
style='color:#888888'><br>
<span class=hoenzb>Lenore</span><br>
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<span class=hoenzb>-- </span><br>
<span class=hoenzb>Lenore Rouse, Curator</span><br>
<span class=hoenzb>Rare Books and Special Collections</span><br>
<span class=hoenzb>Catholic University of America</span><br>
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<span class=hoenzb>Phone: <a href="tel:%28202%29%20319-5090" target="_blank">(202)
319-5090</a></span><br>
<span class=hoenzb>Email: <a href="mailto:rouse@cua.edu" target="_blank">rouse@cua.edu</a></span><br>
<span class=hoenzb>RBSC Blog: <a href="http://ascendonica.blogspot.com/"
target="_blank">http://ascendonica.blogspot.com/</a></span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On 2/13/2013 6:56 PM, Randal Brandt wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>I am cataloging a pamphlet that has a confusingly
constructed imprint. DCRM(B) 4D1.3 and 4D1.4 do not quite address this
situation. The title in question is "An Heroic Epistle to an Unfortunate
Monarch by Peregrine the Elder [i.e. William Combe]," 1778; ESTC T36159: <a
href="http://estc.bl.uk/T36159" target="_blank">http://estc.bl.uk/T36159</a><br>
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The imprint reads (with line breaks and original punctuation and
capitalization):<br>
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LONDON:<br>
Printed in the YEAR M DCC LXXVIII.<br>
And may be had of E. Benson, No. 13, PATER-NOSTER-ROW.<br>
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Reading DCRM(B), I see three possible transcriptions:<br>
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1) London : $b And may be had of E. Benson, No. 13, Pater-Noster-Row, $c
printed in the year MDCCLXXVIII [1778]<br>
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(with a note about the transposition)<br>
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2) London : $b [s.n.], $c printed in the year MDCCLXXVIII [1778], and may be
had of E. Benson, No. 13, Pater-Noster-Row.<br>
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3) London : $b Printed in the year MDCCLXXVIII, and may be had of E. Benson,
No. 13, Pater-Noster-Row, $c [1778]<br>
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ESTC went with option 1 above (without the transposition note), but I'm leaning
towards option 3. What sayeth the collective wisdom?<br>
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Many thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p></p>
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