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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#993366">This has been an interesting discussion.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#993366">I find the comments from John and Manon particularly revealing, and for what it’s worth, think trying to finesse current RDA provisions for “early printed resources”
would end up being rather can-of-wormish. Since these provisions are, um, provisional until the publication of DCRM’s based on RDA, I suggest letting them stand and concentrate on getting DCRM(B) revised and the other DCRM’s published.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#215868">Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. | Head of Cataloging, Folger Shakespeare Library |
<a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu"><span style="color:#215868;text-decoration:none">djleslie@folger.edu</span></a> | 202.675-0369 | www.folger.edu</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lapka, Francis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 04 April, 2013 16:40<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] FW: RDA label "Early Printed Resources" -- revision proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank you Elizabeth, Erin, Karen, Richard, and John, for your excellent suggestions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As Elizabeth notes, most of these guidelines do not apply well to manuscript material. Her suggestion, “For special collections printed resources,” seemed awkward
at first utterance, but less so upon repetition. I am warming to it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I agree with Erin that some of the guidelines for “Early printed resources” are not appropriate for graphic material (and other non-text formats). However it
may be worth noting that seven of the “Early printed resources” guidelines—those that fall under Extent of Text (with rule numbers beginning 3.4.5)—are already self-limiting. A cataloger of graphic material, cartographic material, notated music, or 3-d forms
would not apply the Extent of Text element, opting instead for the specialized extent elements that correspond to those formats. Outside of extent, the remaining “Early printed resources” guidelines may be more applicable to varying formats, but I’d want more
input before proceeding.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">On the relevancy of “early” to these guidelines, the rule that Erin names (2.8.4.1 Publisher’s Name) seems to apply to early material only; but the rest might
apply to resources from any period. I suggest we retain the modifier “early” in this instance, but purge it elsewhere.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks John for noting the history of this label. I may try to hunt down records of those earlier discussions. Richard provides an elegant argument for the
necessity of proper tools for cataloging not-so-early (but still special) printed resources.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As Erin suggests, I have little interest in modifying (or adding to) the substance of these RDA guidelines. Our DCRM revisions will fill that void, in time.
But I do think RDA would benefit from a delicate change in scope and terminology for these elements.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Francis<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Erin Blake<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] FW: RDA label "Early Printed Resources" -- revision proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I agree fully with Richard about “early” being irrelevant, but again, please don’t forget that RDA’s special instructions for “early printed resources” do NOT apply to “special
collections resources.” They apply to SOME special collections resources. Many do not apply to still images.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I strongly recommend against anything that would require adding instructions for still images in special collections to RDA. Either you catalog the picture using RDA, or
you catalog the picture using DCRM(G). You don’t use modified RDA. This follows previous practice: either you use Chapter 8 of AACR2, or you use Graphic Materials.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Erin.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Erin C. Blake, Ph.D. | Curator of Art & Special Collections | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 E. Capitol St. SE | Washington, DC 20003-1004 | office tel. (202) 675-0323 | fax: (202) 675-0328 |
<a href="mailto:eblake@folger.edu"><span style="color:#1F497D">eblake@folger.edu</span></a> |
<a href="http://www.folger.edu/"><span style="color:#1F497D">www.folger.edu</span></a> |
<a href="http://collation.folger.edu/"><span style="color:#1F497D">collation.folger.edu</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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