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Richard,<br>
Yes, that is exactly what I'm seeing, but I had not considered that
the appended title beginning with T⁴ was just a miscalculation on
the part of the printer. That makes so much more sense! <br>
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!<br>
Barbara<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> I am cataloging a
copy of <i>Bericht von den wunderbaren bezoardischen
Steinen</i> ... by Johann Wittich. Leipzig: Hans
Steinmanns Erben, M. D. LXXXIX. [1589]<br>
The chain lines are horizontal with no discernible
watermarks. I believe it is foolscap 4o. Actual
pagination: [16], 146, [16], 147-181, [1] p.<br>
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<u>My first question.</u><br>
The first two gatherings are signed with small letters
enclosed in reversed parentheses: )a( )a( ii )a(
iii .... etc.<br>
Do I include the ")(" in the formula, which looks odd and
makes it difficult to read, or ignore the ")(" and simply
record "a-b⁴" ?<br>
<i>[I'm inclined to ignore them because it does make the
formula difficult to read (see NYPL example below)]</i></div>
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<div>Just use the letters in this case, as one would if the
parens were not reversed (though I'd certainly note how they
were actually set). I've never before seen this trick. The
usual German prelims simply use )(, )()(, )()()( etc. or
sometimes ):( etc., which one does transcribe,even though
it's a pain to look at (unless you;re in an environment
where you can reduce the transcibed parens by 3 points or
so, which does clean things up)</div>
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<u>Second question.</u><br>
One of the gatherings in the main text block is signed
with question marks enclosed in reversed parentheses ")?("<br>
Do I use the actual symbol "?" in the formula or treat it
as I would an unavailable character: [star] [dagger]
[par.] ... etc.<br>
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<div>I'd yranscribe what I see: )?(. If the symbol is in the
basic character set (low ASCII) it's usable-- so use an
asterisk, not "[star]", unless you see some practical need
to differentiate styles of stars; but yes, "[dagger]" etc.
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<u>Third question,</u> probably the most difficult. (Maybe
even impossible without examining the book!)<br>
The majority of signatures in the volume are fairly
straightforward through a-b⁴ A-S⁴, then things get odd at
T (see below), but normalcy resumes U-Z⁴.<br>
The binding is fairly tight, making it difficult to get a
really good look at the gatherings, but my initial attempt
at the formula looks like: <br>
a-b⁴ A-S⁴ [superscript chi]T⁶ ?⁴ T⁴ (-T1) U-Z⁴ [$3 signed
(+[superscript chi]T4; -a1, ?1, T2, Z3)] <br>
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Then I found a record by NYPL in OCLC (#363204902) that
used: <br>
)a(-)b(⁴ A-Z⁴ (interpolate: T⁴ chi1 )?(⁴, between T1 and
T2)<br>
Which, if I am reading it correctly means that a singleton
"chi1" and a full gathering ")?(⁴" has been inserted
between T1 and T2 ...<br>
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So, short of unbinding the volume, is there any way to
determine what is going on between S⁴ and U⁴ ?<br>
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<div><i>Conjecture</i>: The answer depends on whether the
presence or absence of T1 is anomalous, which will usually
mean figuring out what's being done with the text. If T1 was
meant to be cancelled, in the course of adding content
contained in the chiT and )?( gatherings, that should be
obvious when it has been retained. The NYPL formula would be
incorrect. If the leaf was meant to be cancelled (i.e. is an
ideal copy feature) you account for it exactly as you did;
anomalous retention of the leaf would be a copy specific
feature, well worth noting, since one does like to know what
cancellanda contain. If, on the other hand, content is being
interpolated between T1 and T2, the cancellation/insert
formula is correct.</div>
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<div><i>Reality</i>: Now I've looked at the darned thing on
Google Books</div>
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<div>and it turns out that there's simply some fudging
involved with an appended work, <i>Von dem Ligno Guayaco</i>, with
its own special title page and prelims, which was probably
printed concurrently. The main work ends with gathering T^6,
which contains the final leaf of text (T1, p. 145-146),
index (T2r-T5v), and a final blank leaf T6 (present in the
copy I'm looking at online). This is followed by the title
leaf and prelims for the second work--which occupy the whole
of )?(^4-- and the text of that work beginning on T1r, a
page of display text from which the signature has been
omitted, though it has been numbered 147, and so the volume
proceeds to p. 181, with second colophon (and the delightful
Steinman "Lapis Testimonii" device) on [182]. There are
probably two gatherings designated T because the printer
slightly miscalculated where the first text, etc. would end.</div>
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<div>So it's a-b^4 A-S^4 T^6, )?(^4 chiT^4 U-Z^4.</div>
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<div>It's a toss-up as to which T gather gets the prefixed
chi. The first T gathering is continuous with the preceding
text, and so perhaps should not be considered anomalous;
except that the second T gathering is also part of an
integral unit, signed according to initial calculations that
proved incorrect, so that the first T could be construed as
an unanticipated anomaly. It doesn't matter, really, as long
as they're differentiated, and you provide enough
explanation of the textual state of affairs to enable your
reader to see how it all fits together and makes perfect
sense. I don't think printers and readers of the late c16
had any problem with the interpolation uncounted matter
between p. 146 and 147--there's nothing "weird" about it. NB
that <i>neither</i> T1 is or was meant to be cancelled;
"-T1" should not appear in the formula.</div>
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Any guidance will be greatly appreciated!<br>
Barbara<br>
...................All opinions are entirely my
own....................<br>
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