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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I think Ellen nailed it. For the question of whether or not a separate record is warranted in the hypothetical example of it also having been issued as a codex, I’d also be inclined to use one bib record (with
a general note “Also issued as...”), for the reasons Ellen gives. It’s one of those cases where museum cataloging and bibliographic cataloging are different. But I wouldn’t disapprove of two bib records.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Erin.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Cordes, Ellen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Panoramas and DCRM(G)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Francis,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Okay, here is my take. Other editors may feel differently. First of all, I would not call this a panorama since it does not form one image.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">1) Since it looks as if you know that there were 8 plates used create this work create this work with 42 images (certainly as a scroll but possibly as a codex?) I think of it as a multipart resource.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">2) Referencing (</span><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Bold">5B2.1.
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Roman">Choose a term from the list below for the specific material designation. If considered important, give further description in other physical details (see 5C) and in the note area.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Roman"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Roman">I think you could describe this as<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Roman"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">8 prints on 1 scroll <i>if you want to emphasize the fact that there were 8 plates used to create the resource<o:p></o:p></i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Roman">Or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">42 pictures on 1 scroll <i>if you want to emphasize the fact that there were 42 scenes <o:p></o:p></i></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">In either case the note would help clarify what is going on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="color:#1F497D">Also referencing
</span><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Bold">5B4.1. Containers and physical carriers for multipart resources.
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Roman">Record the number and type of containers or physical carriers immediately following the specific material designation when they are original to the material and necessary to accurately
communicate its extent … Container and physical carrier terms that may be added to the specific material designation include, but are not limited to …
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">Leaves it open for you to use “on 1 scroll” even though the word scroll is not on the list. I would be inclined to use it since it seems that it was issued that way because both you (YCBA) and PM hold examples.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Roman"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Bold">5B4.2. Multiple images on one support.
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Roman">If more than one discrete image is on a single support, indicate this immediately following the specific material designation (see also 1H).</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">3) I would consider it a scroll since it seems to have been issued that way, so at least use 5D3.11.1. If you can, I would be measure it both opened and closed, but the rules allow you to provide just the rolled
measurements. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Bold">5D3.11.1.
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Roman">For material created as a scroll (as opposed to material rolled for storage), record the sheet height x diameter when rolled.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:CourierNewPSMT">1 drawing ; rolled to 29 x 3 cm (scroll format)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Roman"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Bold">5D3.11.2.
</span></b><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Italic">Optionally</span></i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Roman">, add measurement of dowels or handles if they are original.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:CourierNewPSMT">1 drawing ; rolled to 26.5 x 3 cm, on dowel 35 cm long (scroll format)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:CourierNewPSMT"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Bold">5D3.11.3.
</span></b><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Italic">Optionally</span></i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:PalatinoLinotype-Roman">, record sheet height x length when unrolled<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:CourierNewPSMT">1 drawing ; sheet 39 x 380 cm (scroll format)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">4) Hum. Hard one. But, since the resource is those same 8 plates, I would think it is one resource and only one record is warranted. Copy specific notes explaining the various ways in which it was issued?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Other ideas, fellow DCRM(G) editors?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Ellen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lapka, Francis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Panoramas and DCRM(G)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For a certain variety of panorama, I am having trouble applying DCRM(G)’s rules for physical description and hope that an editor may chime in with guidance. I have in hand Robert Cruikshank’s
<i>Going to a fight</i>, and provide below a portion of the Morgan’s record for reference.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This image may also prove useful:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://cushing.library.tamu.edu/collections/browse-major-collections/GoingtoaFight.html">http://cushing.library.tamu.edu/collections/browse-major-collections/GoingtoaFight.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Questions:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Given that the panorama comprises 42 distinct scenes, should we consider this a single item or a multipart resource?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Let’s assume that each of the eight sheets was printed from a single plate. What should we record for the specific material designation? 1 print? 8 prints? 42 prints? 1 item? 42 pictures?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Should this be considered a scroll? Should we provide measurements for the item rolled and unrolled?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Let’s imagine another version of this emerged, comprised of each of the eight sheets somehow bound as a codex (but without a title page), and issued at the same time as the scrolled version. The content is identical, except that the
codex version lacks the wooden drum bearing the illustrated label. Is there any reason to consider this a variation requiring a new record?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please feel free to suggest an entire 300 field (with invented data, where need be).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Francis<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://corsair.themorgan.org/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?SC=Author&SEQ=20131008064421&PID=Ghk919GSlEMtWH6aFS1jWKcZpBk_rRp&SA=Cruikshank,+Robert,+1789-1856">Cruikshank, Robert, 1789-1856</a><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://corsair.themorgan.org/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?SC=Title&SEQ=20131008064421&PID=Ghk919GSlEMtWH6aFS1jWKcZpBk_rRp&SA=Going+to+a+fight+:+%5bshowing%5d+the+sporting+world+in+all+its+variety+of+style+and+costume+along+the+road+from+Hyde+Park+Corner+to+Moulsey+Hurst.">Going
to a fight : [showing] the sporting world in all its variety of style and costume along the road from Hyde Park Corner to Moulsey Hurst.</a><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">[London : Pubd. by Sherwood, Neely, & Jones, Sept. 1, 1819]<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1 scroll : col. ill. ; 2 1/2 x 156 inches<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gift of Julia P. Wightman, 1991.<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://corsair.themorgan.org/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?SC=Subject&SEQ=20131008064421&PID=Ghk919GSlEMtWH6aFS1jWKcZpBk_rRp&SA=Aquatints+England+19th+century.">Aquatints --England --19th century.</a><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Imprint and size from Abbey.<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Panorama of 8 sheets joined to make a continous strip of 42 scenes; in boxwood drum with colored aquatint label of boxing scene.<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Signed on panel 2: "I.R. Cruikshank invt & fecit". Imprint on plate 8 (scene 41) "London Pubd. by Sherwood, Neely & Jones, Septr. 1, 1819."<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A copy of "Key to the picture of the fancy Going to a fight at Moulsey-Hurst. Dedicated, by permisson, to Mr. Jackson and the Pugilistic Club. Designed and etched by I.R. Cruikshank, under the direction of P. Egan" provided by a collector
is in the departmental folder for this work.<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Full record: <span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black;background:white">
<a href="http://corsair.themorgan.org/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?BBID=205451">http://corsair.themorgan.org/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?BBID=205451</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">_________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Francis Lapka, Catalog Librarian<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yale Center for British Art, Department of Rare Books and Manuscripts<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1080 Chapel Street, PO Box 208280, New Haven, CT 06520<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">203.432.9672 <a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu">francis.lapka@yale.edu</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D">Please note: The Study Room is closed due to the Center’s refurbishment project, and access to the collections is limited and by appointment only. Requests for materials from Prints and Drawings
and Rare Books and Manuscripts should be made at least two weeks in advance by e-mailing
<a href="mailto:ycba.prints@yale.edu"><span style="color:#1F497D">ycba.prints@yale.edu</span></a>. It is expected that normal services in the Study Room will resume in early January 2014.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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