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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">I’ll echo the chorus of those calling for option A, continuation of the current policy. Perhaps a more relevant example than Harry Potter might be the not uncommon practice of some private presses that issue deluxe and trade edition sometimes without an explicit edition statement. Therefore, the respective records would have the same place of publication, publisher, and likely the same title, but the extent and content would be different. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">OCLC statements such as “end users really don’t care about these distinctions” puzzle and frighten me. To combat their ignorance I’ve become increasingly defensive in my cataloging by coding every master record that I upgrade and every original record I enter as “dcrmb” even if the item is only medium rare. I figure the next cataloger can remove anything they consider extraneous. At least those that do care about these distinctions can benefit from human endeavor and not be perplexed a hatchet job performed by a computer algorithm. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Best,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Library of the Boston Athenaeum</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lapka, Francis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] FW: OCLC matching/merging question for BIBCO: place of publication</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">
</p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">On a related note, for those not subscribed to the BIBCO listserv:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Program for Cooperative Cataloging [<a href="mailto:BIBCO@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV">mailto:BIBCO@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Trumble, Bruce<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:34 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:BIBCO@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV">BIBCO@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [BIBCO] OCLC matching/merging question for BIBCO: place of publication</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Hi Cynthia,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">I’m forwarding this message on behalf of some Harvard Colleagues.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Bruce</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Cynthia – Thank you for sending out to various listservs the announcement about proposed changes in OCLC’s policy relating to place of publication and matching records. We catalogers at Houghton Library (the main special collections library at Harvard University) feel strongly that policy should not be changed. The place of printing is far too important to records treated by special collections catalogers to chance losing information or creating misinformation through computer matching. When it comes to special collections records, there are just too many variations in records to create uniform algorithms. As we are sure you have heard from other special collections catalogers, great numbers of records for “rare” material are not coded in the 040 as being cataloged using any particular set of rules. To use a record’s dates as the determining factor is impossible for this reason as well as the fact that many newer materials are now cataloged using rare book cataloging standards. Additionally, what is not considered rare today, may well be considered so in the future. We cannot chance the fact that a book with the imprint "Cheltenham, UK: Edward Elgar, [2013]" is the same as one with "Cheltenham: Edward Elgar, 2013" and "Northampton, Mass.: E. Elgar Pub., 2013" when the possibility is just as likely that they are different. In your email, you suggest that "end users really don’t care about these distinctions when it comes to obtaining the content and find the multiple records confusing" – that is simply not true of the many scholars doing historical research on a wide array of topics, many of which extend into the 21st century.</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText">Thank you for giving us the opportunity to voice our opinion.</p><p class="MsoPlainText"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText">Karen Nipps</p><p class="MsoPlainText">Head, Rare Book Team</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Manon Theroux<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] FW: OCLC matching/merging question for BIBCO: place of publication</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I suggest "in a 26X field" or "in a 260 or 264 field" rather than "in a 260".</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
The response only addresses merging of records. Should it also address "when to input a new record" since that will also be affected?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The response doesn't really acknowledge that the proposed changes won't apply in EVERY situation when there is a difference in the recorded place of publication. If there are other differences (e.g. publisher name, edition statement, etc.), these will also be taken into account when deciding whether to merge the record (or input a new record). So, the Harry Potter example might not be an especially good one. Although the text varies considerably between the British and American editions, so does the publisher (and sometimes even the title), thus these records would not get merged simply because their place of publication differs. A more effective example would involve materials where the ONLY distinguishing difference is the place of publication. </p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The response assumes that OCLC knows what the "DCRM list" and the "DCRM community" means. Is a little more formality in order to explain what these things mean (even if it's just as a courtesy)? </p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The original query was addressed to the PCC BIBCO discussion list. How many special collections libraries are contributing BIBCO records and should the response highlight them in any way?<br>
<br>Would something from the RBMS Bibliographic Standards Committee carry more weight than something from the "DCRM community"?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I realize it is easier to ask questions than answer them!</p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">Manon Théroux</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">Head of Technical Services</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">U.S. Senate Library</span></p>
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<a href="mailto:manon_theroux@sec.senate.gov"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">manon_theroux@sec.senate.gov</span></a></p><p class="MsoNormal" style> </p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
</p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:02 PM, ANN W. COPELAND <<a href="mailto:auc1@psu.edu" target="_blank">auc1@psu.edu</a>> wrote:</p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">All,</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I've composed a short response cribbing from everyone's messages. Please feel free to edit - if I hear nothing, I will send to Cynthia on Friday. Thanks, Annie</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
</p></div><div><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Dear Cynthia,</p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Thank you for consulting BIBCO members about this important discussion. Francis Lapka posed your questions to the DCRM listserv and there were several comments mostly related to the potential (and worrisome) merger of records with different places of publication.</p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">We have a preference for: A)<span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="background:#fdfdfd">Continue with the current policy, and require different WorldCat records for different places of publication.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">The reasoning has to do with the fact that <span style="background:#fdfdfd">many of our Special Collections records are not coded as bdrb, dcrb or dcrm[x] and fall after the cut-off date to be considered rare (1830). For instance, The Folger Library has materials in their vaults related to Shakespeare from Shakespeare’s time up to the present. Americana collections of any depth will not be protected by the 1830 cut-off date.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="background:#fdfdfd">The place of publication signals a particular manifestation and we would not want those records to be merged based on the assumption that the recording of place in a 260 was done based on changing rules or on cataloger’s judgment. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="background:#fdfdfd">Editions published in different places really can be different editions. They may have many textual differences that are not indicated at all on the title page. The difference in imprint may be the only clue in the catalog record that they are not the same text.</span> </p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="background:#fdfdfd">Consider, for example, the Harry Potter books. These editions were very different based on whether they were published in the UK or in the US.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:#fdfdfd;background-repeat:initial initial">Again, thank you for including us in your conversation,</p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:#fdfdfd;background-repeat:initial initial">
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</div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">"Francis Lapka" <<a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu" target="_blank">francis.lapka@yale.edu</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"DCRM Users' Group" <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Sent: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Tuesday, November 12, 2013 9:36:52 AM</span></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [DCRM-L] FW: OCLC matching/merging question for BIBCO: place of publication</span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I’m leaving town in 24 hours, so I’d prefer to defer to someone else.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>ANN W. COPELAND<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 12, 2013 9:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] FW: OCLC matching/merging question for BIBCO: place of publication</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style>
</p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style>Yes, I do think it would be worth making a response, especially since they are asking. Francis, are you willing to pull from the messages below and draft something this week?</p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style>Annie Copeland</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style>Penn State</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style> </p></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center">
<span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">"Francis Lapka" <<a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu" target="_blank">francis.lapka@yale.edu</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"DCRM Users' Group" <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, November 11, 2013 4:22:48 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [DCRM-L] FW: OCLC matching/merging question for BIBCO: place of publication</span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Cynthia Whitacre (OCLC) asked for comments by November 15. Is this issue of sufficient concern to merit a collective (RBMS?) response?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Francis</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 01, 2013 5:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] FW: OCLC matching/merging question for BIBCO: place of publication</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style> </p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Re Erin's post below and OCLC's remark: "</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#500050">In the past, when the same content was published in two countries (UK publication and US publication for example), it often came out at different times and may have had bibliographic significance. We are not so certain that is the case today."</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Though the dcrm... codes may mean what they mean, might it not be possible, given the close correspondence of full rda and DCRM treatment, to invoke the code as protection from unwarranted conflation--as if what it actually signifies is "We mean <i>this</i> manifestation, not <i>that</i> one, darn it!"</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">It can be significant even with popular titles. Think of the silent editing that sometimes goes on between UK and US editions--e.g. most famously, in recent times, editions of the Harry Potter books. OCLC love lowering their expectations of users, as an opportunity to coarsen the database that <i>claims</i> to be a "World"Cat. If you think you know what they want, why should they know otherwise?</span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style><br clear="all"></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style>
<span style="font-family:"Courier New"">BROWN UNIVERSITY :: PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912 :: <a href="tel:401-863-1187" target="_blank">401-863-1187</a></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><</span><a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Richard_Noble@Br</span></a><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://own.edu" target="_blank">own.edu</a>></span></p>
</div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style>On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Erin Blake <<a href="mailto:EBlake@folger.edu" target="_blank">EBlake@folger.edu</a>> wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Same here (though I'm at home with a cold, so this is only my opinion: haven't canvassed the rest of the Folger). It's not the "rare" that makes precision important for our post-1830 material, it's the "special" -- for example, we have Shakespeare's dog : a novel / by Leon Rooke in the vault even though it's a popular novel first published in 1983. It's the Folger's mission to preserve and provide scholarly access to material from Shakespeare's era and Shakespeare-related material to the present day.<br>
<br>Because RDA does away with AACR2's mandatory abbreviations and silent omissions, we're comfortable using it instead of dcrmb for mass-produced books, but it does mean that we'll be using a code that would not signal "rare" to OCLC.<br>
<br>Erin.<br><br>----------------<br>Erin C. Blake, Ph.D. | Interim Head of Collection Information Services and Cataloging | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 E. Capitol St. SE, Washington, DC, 20009 | <a href="mailto:eblake@folger.edu" target="_blank">eblake@folger.edu</a> | office tel. <a href="tel:%2B1%20202-675-0323" target="_blank">+1 202-675-0323</a> | fax <a href="tel:%2B1%20202-675-0328" target="_blank">+1 202-675-0328</a> | <a href="http://www.folger.edu" target="_blank">www.folger.edu</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sprochi, Amanda K.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 01, 2013 1:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] FW: OCLC matching/merging question for BIBCO: place of publication</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">I would agree. Also, the 1830 cut off date does not reflect Americana.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">New records here for rare materials will have the correct $e for rare materials cataloging but our older records certainly don’t and we wouldn’t want those merged in OCLC under the rules proposed here.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">aks</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Amanda K. Sprochi<br>
Health Sciences Cataloger<br>J. Otto Lottes Health Sciences Library<br>106 HSL<br>1 Hospital Dr.<br>Columbia, MO 65212<br><a href="tel:%28573%29%20882-0461" target="_blank">(573) 882-0461</a><br><a href="https://mail.umsystem.edu/owa/redir.aspx?C=aafaFEkPV0OTrJpeJzmhM857Owq9T9AIHDnpKT52OGrQCzbxtOI4FdaFyt6P_RfGRg-ypRZ411A.&URL=mailto%3asprochia%40health.missouri.edu" target="_blank">sprochia@health.missouri.edu</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Margaret F. Nichols<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 01, 2013 11:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] FW: OCLC matching/merging question for BIBCO: place of publication</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">FWIW: my supervisor in the Library’s cataloging dept. asked for feedback on this thread, so here’s what I wrote:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">My own preference would be for option A) (continuing with the current policy). The distinction between “rare” and “non-rare” materials is a slippery one, since as time goes on, materials that are not currently considered rare will become rare. Also, there are plenty of works that are post-1830 and may not have been cataloged using rare book rules (so they don’t have 040 $e bdrb, dcrb, or dcrmb), but that are of great rarity and/or historical significance, so that the distinction between editions published in different places will still matter very much to a lot of researchers. One example might be different editions of Joyce’s Ulysses.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Another consideration is that editions published in different places really are different editions. They may have many textual differences that are not indicated at all on the title page. The difference in imprint may be the only clue in the catalog record that they are not the same text. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">I don’t feel confident about rendering a verdict concerning e-resources, but I do think that the argument that their place of publication should be disregarded because “</span>Records for remote electronic resources, are often created by content providers through automated means, and careful checking of the actual publication is often not done; thus the accuracy of place of publication may be meaningless in many records for electronic resources” <span style="color:#254061">is weak. If the content providers are sloppy about place of publication, that’s a good reason for them to clean up their act, not a good reason for us to muck things up further by ignoring place of publication altogether. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#254061"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#254061">My two cents,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#254061"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style>
<span style="color:#254061">Margaret</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">___________________________________</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Margaret F. Nichols</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Rare Materials Cataloging Coordinator</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Cataloging & Metadata Services in RMC</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">2B Kroch Library</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Cornell University</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Ithaca, NY 14853-5302</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Tel. <a href="tel:%28607%29%20255-3530" target="_blank">(607) 255-3530</a> * E-mail <a href="mailto:mnr1@cornell.edu" target="_blank">mnr1@cornell.edu</a></span></p>
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<span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Sotelo, Aislinn [<a href="mailto:asotelo@ucsd.edu" target="_blank">mailto:asotelo@ucsd.edu</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List (<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>)<br><b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] FW: OCLC matching/merging question for BIBCO: place of publication</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">See the below messages.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style>
<span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">I had the same question as Francis when I saw this message and I’m interested to hear other people’s thoughts about this.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">I know that at my institution many of our Special Collections records are not coded as bdrb, dcrb or dcrm[x] and fall after the cut-off date to be considered rare, yet records that accurately represent their publication information is nonetheless important. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Aislinn </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style>
<b><span style="color:#4a4183">Aislinn Sotelo</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#403152"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#8181ff">Head, Special Collections Technical Services |The Library | UC San Diego | </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#4a4183">(</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#8181ff"> <a href="tel:858-534-6766" target="_blank">858-534-6766</a> | </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#4a4183">*</span><span style="color:#403152"> </span><span style="color:#404040"><a href="mailto:asotelo@ucsd.edu" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">asotelo@ucsd.edu</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#8181ff"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Program for Cooperative Cataloging [<a href="mailto:BIBCO@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV" target="_blank">mailto:BIBCO@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Whitacre,Cynthia<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:BIBCO@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV" target="_blank">BIBCO@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [BIBCO] OCLC matching/merging question for BIBCO: place of publication</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Hello Francis:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style>
<span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">That’s an excellent question. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Currently we protect and do not merge based on both date of publication criteria and/or coding in the 040 subfield e to define “rare”. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Dates:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">For cartographic materials, anything pre-1900 is considered rare (based on the recommendation of MAGIRT). </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">For all other materials, it is pre-1830. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">The codes in 040 subfield e that would prevent us from merging are:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">bdrb or dcrb or dcrm[x] (i.e., any $e code beginning with the letters dcrm)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style>
<span style="color:#1f497d">We’d welcome input on this criteria also. If there are other codes we ought to add to this list to define “rare”, please let us know!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Cynthia</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Cynthia M. Whitacre</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Manager, WorldCat Quality & Partner Content Dept.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">OCLC</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"><a href="tel:800-848-5878%2C%20ext.%206183" target="_blank">800-848-5878, ext. 6183</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"><a href="mailto:whitacrc@oclc.org" target="_blank">whitacrc@oclc.org</a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style>
<span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Lapka, Francis [<a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu" target="_blank">mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> Program for Cooperative Cataloging<br><b>Cc:</b> Whitacre,Cynthia<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: OCLC matching/merging question for BIBCO: place of publication</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Cynthia,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style>
<span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">As you note, “</span>Distinctions like this will continue to matter for rare books.<span style="color:#1f497d">” </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style>
<span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">For option B—</span>Modify the current policy to allow the merging of records (and matching of records) with different places of publication for <b>non-rare materials</b> if everything else matches<span style="color:#1f497d">)—how would OCLC define “non-rare materials”?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Thanks,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Francis</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style>
<span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">_________________________________</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style>
<b><span style="color:#1f497d">Francis Lapka, Catalog Librarian</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Yale Center for British Art, Department of Rare Books and Manuscripts</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style>
<span style="color:#1f497d">1080 Chapel Street, PO Box 208280, New Haven, CT 06520</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"><a href="tel:203.432.9672" target="_blank">203.432.9672</a> <a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu" target="_blank">francis.lapka@yale.edu</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1f497d">Please note: The Study Room is closed due to the Center’s refurbishment project, and access to the collections is limited and by appointment only. Requests for materials from Prints and Drawings and Rare Books and Manuscripts should be made at least two weeks in advance by e-mailing <a href="mailto:ycba.prints@yale.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1f497d">ycba.prints@yale.edu</span></a>. It is expected that normal services in the Study Room will resume in early January 2014.</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Program for Cooperative Cataloging [<a href="mailto:BIBCO@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV" target="_blank">mailto:BIBCO@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Whitacre,Cynthia<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:BIBCO@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV" target="_blank">BIBCO@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [BIBCO] OCLC matching/merging question for BIBCO: place of publication</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style>Hello BIBCO Colleagues:</p><p class="MsoNormal" style> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style>
This is an admittedly long message, but please read all of it, as your opinion and thoughts are requested. </p><p class="MsoNormal" style>OCLC is contemplating making a change in our “when to input a new record” standards as published in Bibliographic Formats and Standards Chapter 4, as well as in our internal merging standards for what is considered a duplicate. We’d like your help in reaching a decision. The element in question is the place of publication. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style>Currently in Chapter 4 of BFAS (<a href="http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/input.html" target="_blank">http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/input.html</a>) under 260 subfield a (we know we need to add 264 to this) we list some instances where minor differences in place are acceptable for considering the records to be the same. However, the basic statement says that “differences in the place of publication justify a new record.” </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style>One of the reasons we have traditionally NOT merged “duplicate” records when everything else is the same is when place of publication differs. Here is what our current internal merge instructions say:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>260</b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Subfield $a guidelines</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:.75in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>Records may be considered duplicates for merge even with the absence or presence of the subfield a.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:.75in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>Always match 1<sup>st</sup> place of publication.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">
Examples:</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:.75in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>New York matches New York, Toronto</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:.75in">
<span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>London, Orlando matches London, Toronto </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:.75in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>New York does <b>not</b> match Toronto, New York</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:.75in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>New York, Bombay does <b>not</b> match Bombay, New York</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">
<b><i>Note:</i></b> Places of publication within the same country are considered a match and justify a merge.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:.75in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>New York, Chicago matches Chicago, New York</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</p><p class="MsoNormal" style>For example, look at these 3 publication statements from 3 WorldCat records for the same title:</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">
<span lang="DE">264 1 Cheltenham, UK : </span><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"">ǂ</span><span lang="DE">b Edward Elgar, </span><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"">ǂ</span><span lang="DE">c [2013]</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="DE">260 Cheltenham : </span><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"">ǂ</span><span lang="DE">b Edward Elgar, </span><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"">ǂ</span><span lang="DE">c 2013.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">260 Northampton, Mass. : <span style="font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"">ǂ</span>b E. Elgar Pub., <span style="font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif"">ǂ</span>c 2013.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style>Under our current OCLC criteria for place, we would merge the first two but not the third (assuming everything else matched). </p><p class="MsoNormal" style> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style>Looking at the cataloging codes, here’s what <b>AACR2</b> says:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b>1.4C5.</b> If two or more places in which a publisher, distributor, etc., has offices are named in the item, give the first named place. Give any subsequently named place that is given prominence by the layout or typography of the source of information. If the first named place and any place given prominence are not in the home country of the cataloguing agency, give also the first of any subsequently named places that is in the home country. Omit all other places.</p>
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</p><p class="MsoNormal" style>And,<b> RDA </b>says:</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">2.8.2.4</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">More Than One Place of Publication</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">
If more than one place of publication is named on the source of information, record the place names in the order indicated by the sequence, layout, or typography of the names on the source of information.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</p><p class="MsoNormal" style>Our thinking, in random order: </p><p><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">It has always seemed that cataloger’s judgment is at play regarding what gets recorded, no matter which code is in use. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">RDA gives a bit more leeway than AACR2. In our discussions, we are of two minds regarding this. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">In the past, when the same content was published in two countries (UK publication and US publication for example), it often came out at different times and may have had bibliographic significance. We are not so certain that is the case today. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Many reported duplicates and perceived duplicates exist in WorldCat because of the policy of not matching places of publication in different countries when everything else matches.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">End users really don’t care about these distinctions when it comes to obtaining the content and find the multiple records confusing</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Records for remote electronic resources, are often created by content providers through automated means, and careful checking of the actual publication is often not done; thus the accuracy of place of publication may be meaningless in many records for electronic resources. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Distinctions like this will continue to matter for rare books.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style>So, we are left with some choices:</p><p class="MsoNormal" style>A) Continue with the current policy, and require different WorldCat records for different places of publication</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style>B) Modify the current policy to allow the merging of records (and matching of records) with different places of publication for non-rare materials if everything else matches. </p><p class="MsoNormal" style>
C) Stick with the current policy for tangible resources, but allow matching/merging of records for different places of publication for records for remotely-accessed resources only. </p><p class="MsoNormal" style>D) Another alternative entirely; suggestions welcome! </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style>We would welcome discussion and input on this matter. Which of the choices, A, B, or C do you prefer? If you prefer D, please suggest the alternative that you have in mind. We have asked BIBCO colleagues, since we believe this is a larger issue with records for monographic materials rather than with records for continuing resources. Please share your thoughts on the BIBCO list. If you prefer to send a message directly to OCLC, send it to <a href="mailto:askqc@oclc.org" target="_blank">askqc@oclc.org</a>, as that will go to the appropriate people. We welcome comments through November 15, as we will be discussing this again at OCLC the week of November 18 to try to reach a decision. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style>Thank you!</p><p class="MsoNormal" style> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style>Cynthia M. Whitacre</p><p class="MsoNormal" style>Manager, WorldCat Quality & Partner Content Dept.</p>
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