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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Tony,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks for your comments (and nice to hear from you)!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Several aspects of DCRM(B) regarding “pious invocations” have increasingly puzzled me, and may be worth further exploration, especially now that the DCRM/RDA group has started its work<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">DCRM(B) 1A2.2 is captioned “</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Omission of pious invocations, etc.,” and proceeds to instruct the cataloger to “Omit, without using the mark of omission, information
found on the title page that constitutes neither title information nor a statement of responsibility. Such information may include pious invocations, quotations, devices, announcements, epigrams, mottoes, prices, etc.”</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
(This instruction is carried over from earlier rules, probably BDRB but I can’t verify at the moment)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The title page headed “Iesus Maria” is the first pious invocation I’ve ever knowingly encountered
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">A medium-thorough skim of
<a href="http://www.loc.gov/cds/desktop/documents/DCRMBex/">Examples to Accompany DCRM(B)</a> for examples to 1A2.2 revealed quotations, devices, announcements, epigrams, mottoes, prices aplenty, but no examples of “pious invocations” <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’m not completely certain that the “Iesus Maria” at the head of the title really
<b>is</b> a pious invocation, although I don’t know what else it would be, and can’t imagine what a pious invocation might be if not this<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Why is “Pious invocations” given such prominence in the rules? In my experience, quotations are far and away the most common non-title information, followed by privilege statements and prices. Wouldn’t
the caption more logically be “Omission of quotations, etc.”? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Regarding Tony’s query: <o:p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Surely all pious invocations should be given the same treatment in transcription, regardless of who or what is being invoked<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Do we really know what we mean by “pious invocations”?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Curwen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 23 November, 2013 16:49<br>
<b>To:</b> dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Invocations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">A week ago Deborah Leslie showed us an interesting pious invocation. Alas, this hasn't proved one of those Friday or Saturday afternoon diversions which elicit comments, questions and further examples.<br>
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A question, then: Do the relevant rules apply equally to non-Christian invocations? Once, when hunting for works which illustrated a variety of cataloguing problems, I found a Muslim book entitled
<em><span style="font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif"">Prophet Yunus (Alaihissalam)</span></em>. It is neither old nor rare, but its title shows the pious invocation commonly used after the name of the Prophet Mohammed and also others revered in Islam. I
didn't pursue this line of enquiry at the time, so have no idea whether Muslim cataloguers invariably keep these invocations when recording titles and statements of responsibility or sometimes omit them.<br>
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[For those requiring a reference, this was example no.2 in my little magnum opus (magnum opus parvum?),<em><span style="font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif""> ISBD manual : a guide...</span></em> Paris : Unesco, 1990. The odd copy may still be gathering
dust somewhere, long since overtaken by developments].<br>
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Have List users other examples of invocations, both Christian and Muslim and perhaps also from other faiths and persuasions?<br>
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Tony Curwen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Aberystwyth<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Consultant, CERL (retired)<br>
Lecturer, College of Librarianship Wales (even longer retired)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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