<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Erin: Good! I'm with you, especially because the term is one that can function with the same precise comprehensiveness in DCRMG and DCRMB. We're <i>always</i> better off using the same terms, whenever we can, to describe the "graphic" components of books in the same terms used to describe "graphics" on their own. - Richard</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Erin Blake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:EBlake@folger.edu" target="_blank">EBlake@folger.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Good question. I'm surprised to discover that I'm coming down on the side of keeping "xylographic" (normally, I'm a big fan of the vernacular). Reasons for
keeping "xylographic": <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It covers both "woodcut" [plank-side technique] and "wood engraving" [end-grain technique]; the terms are easily confused, but meaningful to specialists;
we don't want to have the same problem with wood cuts that we do with "metal cuts" in ESTC (where what are called "metal cuts" are almost always actually engravings, i.e. intaglio prints; metal cuts are a very rare form of illustration, printed in relief from
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The term "xylography" is widely used in the literature (enough so that on Friday, I overheard a professor making sure that his dissertation seminar
students understood it)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> It is understood by specialists to mean "graphic" in the sense "of or relating to the written or printed word" as opposed to "pictorial" (not just
when talking about title pages, but when talking about woodcuts: there are times when it's important to distinguish which words in a picture are cut from the block and which are set from type, since only the latter can easily be changed; it's a big deal in
the history of book illustration)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It's an important distinction that would be lost in keyword searching and datamining (it's fine to read "title printed from wood block" if you're
looking for more information about a known book, but if you're studying printing history, you'll want to be able to search "xylograph*" <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It's easily understood from the dictionary definition if someone doesn't know what it means.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks for bringing it up!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Alternative to "xylographic"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">I suppose the attraction of "xylographic" is that it corresponds semantically to "typographic". But we have "woodcut".<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">How to phrase it? "First word is a woodcut", "First word is woodcut", "First word is printed from a woodcut block"? I ask, because in ordinary discourse there's a strong pictorial connotation
to "woodcut", where the technical term "xylographic" simply means "printed from wood", with the understanding that it's from a block, not wood type.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Anyway, "woodcut"--or "wood engraving", if we're describing such a thing--does seem like the best candidate.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Deborah J. Leslie <<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">In an effort to drop obscure vocabulary in catalog records, I'm casting about for another way to word a note on the fact that a word
or block of text is printed from a wood block instead of metal type. The ESTC uses it extensively: e.g.,
<a href="http://estc.bl.uk/S120001" target="_blank">http://estc.bl.uk/S120001</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Any suggestions?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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