<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Quite. I'm all for discarding
obfuscatory jargon, but there seems no reason to reject a term
which is widely used and understood by our users, and for which
there is no obvious substitute.<br>
<br>
--<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">William Hale.
Rare Books Department,
Cambridge University Library,
West Road, Cambridge CB3 9DR,
England.
Telephone: (+44) (0)1223 333122
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:William.Hale@lib.cam.ac.uk">William.Hale@lib.cam.ac.uk</a></pre>
On 18/12/2013 01:40, Erin Blake wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:8BEE26EC5DD62C4288E3A78FD71DC4BFC155113A@FSLEXCH02.folger.edu"
type="cite">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=ISO-8859-1">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered
medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Wingdings;
panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
{font-family:Wingdings;
panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Georgia;
panose-1:2 4 5 2 5 4 5 2 3 3;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p.MsoListParagraph, li.MsoListParagraph, div.MsoListParagraph
{mso-style-priority:34;
margin-top:0in;
margin-right:0in;
margin-bottom:0in;
margin-left:.5in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
span.EmailStyle17
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
/* List Definitions */
@list l0
{mso-list-id:222835678;
mso-list-type:hybrid;
mso-list-template-ids:801959626 67698689 67698691 67698693 67698689 67698691 67698693 67698689 67698691 67698693;}
@list l0:level1
{mso-level-number-format:bullet;
mso-level-text:\F0B7;
mso-level-tab-stop:none;
mso-level-number-position:left;
text-indent:-.25in;
font-family:Symbol;}
ol
{margin-bottom:0in;}
ul
{margin-bottom:0in;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Good
question. I'm surprised to discover that I'm coming down on
the side of keeping "xylographic" (normally, I'm a big fan
of the vernacular). Reasons for keeping "xylographic": <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It
covers both "woodcut" [plank-side technique] and "wood
engraving" [end-grain technique]; the terms are easily
confused, but meaningful to specialists; we don't want to
have the same problem with wood cuts that we do with "metal
cuts" in ESTC (where what are called "metal cuts" are almost
always actually engravings, i.e. intaglio prints; metal cuts
are a very rare form of illustration, printed in relief from
metal plates)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
term "xylography" is widely used in the literature (enough
so that on Friday, I overheard a professor making sure that
his dissertation seminar students understood it)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> It
is understood by specialists to mean "graphic" in the sense
"of or relating to the written or printed word" as opposed
to "pictorial" (not just when talking about title pages, but
when talking about woodcuts: there are times when it's
important to distinguish which words in a picture are cut
from the block and which are set from type, since only the
latter can easily be changed; it's a big deal in the history
of book illustration)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It's
an important distinction that would be lost in keyword
searching and datamining (it's fine to read "title printed
from wood block" if you're looking for more information
about a known book, but if you're studying printing history,
you'll want to be able to search "xylograph*" <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It's
easily understood from the dictionary definition if someone
doesn't know what it means.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks
for bringing it up!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Erin.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--------------------------------------------------<br>
Erin C. Blake, Ph.D. | Interim Head of Collection
Information Services and Cataloging; Curator of Art &
Special Collections | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201
E. Capitol St. SE | Washington, DC 20003-1004 | office
tel. +1 (202) 675-0323 | fax: +1 (202) 675-0328 |
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:eblake@folger.edu">eblake@folger.edu</a> | <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.folger.edu">www.folger.edu</a> | collation.folger.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Alternative to "xylographic"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">I
suppose the attraction of "xylographic" is that it
corresponds semantically to "typographic". But we have
"woodcut".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">How
to phrase it? "First word is a woodcut", "First word is
woodcut", "First word is printed from a woodcut block"?
I ask, because in ordinary discourse there's a strong
pictorial connotation to "woodcut", where the technical
term "xylographic" simply means "printed from wood",
with the understanding that it's from a block, not wood
type.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Anyway,
"woodcut"--or "wood engraving", if we're describing such
a thing--does seem like the best candidate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
New"">RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER ::
JOHN HAY LIBRARY</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New"">BROWN
UNIVERSITY :: PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912 ::
401-863-1187</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""><</span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" target="_blank"><span
style="font-family:"Courier New"">Richard_Noble@Br</span></a><span
style="font-family:"Courier New""><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://own.edu"
target="_blank">own.edu</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:49 PM,
Deborah J. Leslie <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">In an effort
to drop obscure vocabulary in catalog records, I'm
casting about for another way to word a note on the
fact that a word or block of text is printed from a
wood block instead of metal type. The ESTC uses it
extensively: e.g.,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://estc.bl.uk/S120001" target="_blank">http://estc.bl.uk/S120001</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Any
suggestions?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0070C0"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#005EA4">Deborah
J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. | Folger Shakespeare Library
| 201 East Capitol St., S.E. | Washington, D.C.
20003 | <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu" target="_blank"><span
style="color:#005EA4">djleslie@folger.edu</span></a></span><span
style="color:#005EA4">
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#005EA4">| <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:202.675-0369"
target="_blank">
202.675-0369</a> | <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.folger.edu/" target="_blank"><span
style="color:#005EA4">http://www.folger.edu</span></a>
</span><span style="color:#005EA4"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</body>
</html>