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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">Attention manuscript catalogers<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">Here is a second issue submitted by Kathy Glennan for CC:DA discussion at Midwinter:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><a href="http://alcts.ala.org/ccdablog/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/JSCrepGlennan201305.pdf">http://alcts.ala.org/ccdablog/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/JSCrepGlennan201305.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">The summary is sufficiently short to copy here:</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Background:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Deborah Fritz has identified a problem with identifying the source of information for Date of Production (RDA 2.7.6.2). As currently phrased, the date of production can come from any
source, with no priority being given to a source in the resource. When the source of information is “any source,” catalogers do not need to indicate in any way that the data is supplied. However, RDA provides conflicting information about this recording
this element. In relation to supplied dates, RDA 1.9.2 states in part: “Indicate that the date was taken from a source outside the resource itself (see 2.2.4).” Indeed, Date of Production appears on the list of transcribed elements in RDA 2.2.4 which require
identification when the element is supplied from outside the resource. Deborah has also noted that subsequent instructions in RDA 2.7 also reference 2.2.4.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">In addition, the other elements associated with the Production Statement do provide a priority order. The same situation occurs with Date of Manufacture (RDA 2.10.6.2).
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<p class="MsoNormal">Current text: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">2.7.6 Date of Production <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">2.7.6.2 Sources of Information <o:p>
</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Take dates of production from any source.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">2.8.6 Date of Publication <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">2.8.6.2 Sources of Information <o:p>
</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">Take dates of publication from the following sources (in order of preference):
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">a) the same source as the title proper (see 2.3.2.2)
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">b) another source within the resource itself (see 2.2.2)
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in">c) one of the other sources of information specified at 2.2.4.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">For multipart monographs and serials, take the beginning and/or ending date of publication from the first and/or last released issue or part, or from another source.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">For integrating resources, take the beginning and/or ending date of publication from the first and/or last iteration, or from another source.
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Questions for discussion:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">1. Should CC:DA develop a change proposal to address this situation? If so:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">2. Should the proposal suggest changes for both Date of Production and Date of Manufacture?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">3. Should the new language follow that for Date of Publication (RDA 2.8.6.2), or should it be simplified to just offer:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">a. a source within the resource itself
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">b. any source
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">4. If based on Date of Publication, should any of the final paragraphs be omitted? Does that decision apply to both Date of Production and Date of Manufacture?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">For Date of Manufacture, the current RDA guidelines (take “from any source”) are indeed problematic. I think it would be logical to revise the guidelines to follow those
for Date of Publication. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">For Date of Production, however, the RDA guidelines are in harmony with the current draft of DCRM(Mss), which also instructs to take the information “from any source.” In
light of the principles of manuscript cataloging, are RDA’s guidelines for Place of Production and Producer’s name more problematic? For these, the preferred sources of information echo those of published (i.e. self-describing) resources.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">The concluding
<i>exception</i> at RDA 2.2.4 is important: </span><b><i><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">“</span></i></b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">Do not indicate that the information was taken from
a source outside the resource itself if the resource is of a type that does not normally carry identifying information (e.g., a photograph, a naturally occurring object, a collection).” Even though elements of the production statement are named as transcribed
elements (in 2.2.4), most resources for which we’d record production information are also those that do not normally carry identifying information.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">Your thoughts wanted (especially the Mss group).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D">Francis<b><i><o:p></o:p></i></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(RBMS Liaison to CC:DA)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">_________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Francis Lapka, Catalog Librarian<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yale Center for British Art, Department of Rare Books and Manuscripts<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1080 Chapel Street, PO Box 208280, New Haven, CT 06520<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">203.432.9672 <a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu"><span style="color:blue">francis.lapka@yale.edu</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D">Please note: The Study Room is closed due to the Center’s refurbishment project, and access to the collections is limited and by appointment only. Requests for materials from Prints and Drawings
and Rare Books and Manuscripts should be made at least two weeks in advance by e-mailing
</span><a href="mailto:ycba.prints@yale.edu"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D">ycba.prints@yale.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D">. It is expected that normal services in the Study Room will resume in early January 2014.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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