<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">As I said to Deborah in a side note, I think it helps very much to add (in this case) the reading of the first line of p. 8 in the <i>other</i> setting--the result in two or, heaven knows, more records is a set of reciprocal notes, each of which is sufficient to obviate the need for inference on the part of the catalog user. Who knows? There might be a third setting. </div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Alice Hanes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ahanes@hagley.org" target="_blank">ahanes@hagley.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Elaine and Deborah—<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Thank you both for your advice
on including the citation and formulating a note that would serve to
distinguish my book in hand from the version I saw linked through an 856 field
on OCLC. This is what I came up with:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1f497d">500 Two
settings of type are noted. In this setting, the first line of text on p. 8
reads "Parmi les vues politiques dont vous remplirez votre." Martin
& Walter does not distinguish between different settings of type.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:#1f497d">510 4_ Martin
& Walter. Révolution française,[c]III, 24452<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Here’s my follow-up question: Should
these notes have been added to the established record (#222640157) on OCLC,
even with its link to a PDF of varying text, or was I justified in contributing
a new master record (#869008399) of my own? Can one suffer from too much
information – and too little – at the same time? I’m not so sure, and I have
alerted <a href="mailto:bibchange@oclc.org" target="_blank">bibchange@oclc.org</a> to the
situation. What I’m learning through this experience will help me through
another in the future, </span><span lang="FR" style="color:#1f497d">j'espère.</span><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div class="im">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Handwriting";color:#1f497d">Alice H. Hanes<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1f497d">Technical
Services Librarian<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1f497d">Hagley Museum
and Library<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1f497d">298 Buck Road
East<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1f497d">Wilmington, DE
19807-0630<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1f497d"><a href="tel:%28302%29%20658-2400" value="+13026582400" target="_blank">(302) 658-2400</a>
x234<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shiner,
Elaine<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:00 PM</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Shares citation but varies from PDF<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">I think Deborah is right about
the reference to Martin & Walter. Leaving it out is maybe a bit lazy </span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="color:#1f497d">.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Elaine<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah
J. Leslie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Shares citation but varies from PDF<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"">Hello
Alice and Elaine,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"">If
I understand the situation correctly, I agree with Elaine. I would cite Martin
& Walter, and in the note you make that distinguishes the two editions, add
something to the effect that Martin & Walter does not distinguish between
the two editions. Make no reference to the OCLC record or link. Here's an
example of a record I did just last week: <a href="http://shakespeare.folger.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?BBID=264765" target="_blank">http://shakespeare.folger.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?BBID=264765</a>
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"">Also
take close look at your text. I'd bet that "occafion" is really
"</span><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif""> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"">occaſion."<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Corbel","sans-serif";color:#31849b">Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. | Folger Shakespeare Library |
201 East Capitol St., S.E. | Washington, D.C. 20003 | <a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">djleslie@folger.edu</a> | <a href="tel:202.675-0369" value="+12026750369" target="_blank">202.675-0369</a> | <a href="http://www.folger.edu" target="_blank">http://www.folger.edu</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>
[<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
On Behalf Of Shiner, Elaine<br>
Sent: Monday, 27 January 2014 16:40<br>
To: DCRM Users' Group<br>
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Shares citation but varies from PDF<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p>Dear Alice:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p>I don't think that's a good idea, since you have no
control over the links. If I couldn't find any difference that could
justify a new OCLC record, I would insert a 500 note into the master record,
but without referring to the link. For instance, "Two editions are
noted." or "Two setting of type are noted", and then: In one,
the last line of text on p. [5] reads: ". occafion plus favorable
pour confondre vos en- .."; in the other, the last line of text on p. [5]
reads "[whatever it reads in the electronic resource]" I don't
think it's necessary to mention Martin & Walter, as long as the description
in Martin & Walter could refer to either.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p>Elaine Shiner,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Rare Book Cataloger<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Houghton Library<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p>-----Original Message-----<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>From: <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</span></a>
[<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</span></a>] On Behalf
Of Alice Hanes<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 2:26 PM<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>To: DCRM Users' Group<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Subject: [DCRM-L] Shares citation but varies from PDF<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p>Dear colleagues-- We are converting some French
Revolution pamphlets to MARC records from catalog cards, many of which include
citations. The one in hand cites Martin & Walter, III, 24452,
which is further linked through (OCoLC) 12938925 to an electronic resource that
has the same page count but different type-set. I'm wondering
whether I should note mine as a variant through a note such as the one below
and would appreciate hearing how any of you might handle this situation.
Thank you.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p>500
This ed. varies from electronic resource linked to (OCoLC) 12938925 which also
cites Martin & Walter. Révolution française. III, 24452. Last line of
text on p. [5] reads: ". occafion plus favorable pour confondre vos
en- .."<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p>510 4 Martin & Walter. Révolution
française, [c]III, 24452<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p>Alice H. Hanes<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Technical Services Librarian<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Hagley Museum and Library<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>298 Buck Road East<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Wilmington, DE 19807-0630<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><a href="tel:%28302%29%20658-2400%20x234" value="+13026582400" target="_blank">(302) 658-2400 x234</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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