<div dir="ltr">Thank you, Richard, for the clarification of inserts. I liked the Bowers example, but wasn't sure if it applied to my book. I'm glad to know that it does.<div><br></div><div>And, I do, indeed, know what "p." means -- Just like I know what "i.e.", "e.g.", "ca." and "sic" mean!</div>
<div><br></div><div>Yr obt RDA svt,</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Noble, Richard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:richard_noble@brown.edu" target="_blank">richard_noble@brown.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><font face="georgia, serif">Bowers, top of p. 220 (you know what "p." means, of course ...) obtains here, I think. The first B is an "insert" by virtue of the fact that the </font><i style="font-family:georgia,serif">signature</i><font face="georgia, serif"> is a duplicate inserted into the register of signatures, and since the second B is the first signature of the main text series, </font><span style="font-size:13px"><font face="georgia, serif">[A]^2 [superscript chi]B^8 B-E^8 F^4 is just right. There's no need to consider the pagination of B, which might more correctly have been [i] ii-xvi in this period (i.e. single numerical series starting roman and changing to arabic). There's no need for inflection of [A] because it's not duplicated and correctly inferred as such.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear collective wisdom,<div><br></div><div>I am cataloging a book with a somewhat unusual signing pattern and am debating (with myself) how best to record it. I do not find adequate help in Bowers. I now bring the debate to you:</div>
<div><br></div><div>The book: </div><div>Mathias, Thomas James. The shade of Alexander Pope on the banks of the Thames (ESTC T93918)</div><div><br></div><div>The collation:</div><div>8vo: 2 unnumbered leaves, unsigned (half-title, title page); pages [1]-16, signed B^8 (preface); pages[17]-86, [2], signed B-E^8 F^4 (text + advertisement leaf)</div>
<div><br></div><div>The problem:</div><div>How to give the preliminary gatherings in the signature statement? So far, I have:</div><div>[A]^2 [superscript pi]B^8 B-E^8 F^4</div><div><br></div><div>But, I question that treatment of the preliminary 2 leaf unsigned gathering. I don't really think that the first B gathering is an insert, given that the pagination continues directly from the preface into the main text. But, if it were, it could be handled like the example given in Bowers p. 220: </div>
<div>[A]^2 [superscript chi]B^8 B-E^8 F^4</div><div><br></div><div>Or should the first gathering also receive the pi designation?:</div><div>[superscript pi][A]^2 [superscript pi]B^8 B-E^8 F^4</div><div><br></div><div>Many thanks in advance for your advice.</div>
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