<html><body><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Adding subfields usually requires a proposal, but may not require a discussion paper first.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I'd be glad to work with you on the proposal.<br></div><div><br></div><div> John<br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Elizabeth O'Keefe" <eokeefe@themorgan.org><br><b>To: </b>"DCRM Users' Group" <dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:26:23 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [DCRM-L] Limitations of MARC 581<br><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Good catch, Deborah! This change seems straightforward enough that it might not even require a formal proposal, just an email to the Network Development and MARC Standards Office asking them to add the subfields to the 581. If they find this at all problematic, they would ask for a more formal proposal or discussion paper. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Yes, I see what you mean. Sounds like a proposal to add these subfields to the 581 would be a good thing. Here’s some info I found on where and how to make such a proposal:
<a href="http://www.loc.gov/marc/mac/advisory.html" target="_blank">http://www.loc.gov/marc/mac/advisory.html</a><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Looking through the 5xx fields, the 588 has a subfield 5 and the 510 has a subfield u, but no field that approaches the function of the 581 seems to have both.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Best,<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah J. Leslie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Limitations of MARC 581<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Does anyone else find MARC 581 too limiting for the purposes of rare materials cataloging?
<a href="http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd581.html" target="_blank">http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd581.html</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Is there any reason that |u for online publications and |5 when the publication is about individual copies could not be added? Or is there another tag for this information that I'm missing?<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Thanks,<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Deborah<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p>
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