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Richard to the rescue!<br>
Yes, it does appear to be two gatherings of four, probably, as you
say, printed as a work and turn. So a copy specific binding error.<br>
Thank you!<br>
Barbara<br>
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style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Pretty
certainly the intended final gathering R^4 was printed as a
work-and-turn half sheet. If you were to leave the sheet
undivided and fold it as an 8-leaf gathering, you'd get the
sequence R1, R1,R2, R2, R3, R3, R4, R4. So it looks as if, in
this copy, the binder cut the sheet in half, folded the two
half-sheets properly, and mistakenly bound both into one copy
rather than two different ones.</div>
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style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Are you sure
that you're not looking at two gatherings of four leaves,
rather than one of eight? Can you see the binding threads? You
should see them between leaves 2 and 3/6 and 7 of the sequence
of eight leaves--but in that case you can't refer to the last
four leaves as R5-8, just leaves R1-4 repeated.</div>
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style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Anyway, the
repetition of R^4 has to be a binding error, strictly copy
specific. You give the signatures as A-Q^8 R^4, as for ideal
copy (= what's "called for") in the general description of
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi All, <br>
I'm hoping I can get in one last collation question before
everyone disappears for ALA!<br>
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I am cataloging a book with consistent gatherings in 8vo,
until I reach the last gathering.<br>
It is also appears to be in 8vo, but the gathering should
have been split between two separate copies. <br>
As you can see in the scanned version (Google books link
below), the last signature R (page 257), ends after 4
leaves. <br>
However my copy has those last pages duplicated. Not
additional pages with duplicate numbering, but the actual
pages duplicated.<br>
Beginning with the half-title page I have A-S⁸ then the R
signature, with leaves R1 through R4 repeated as R5
through R8.<br>
How to I transcribe that into the signature formula? Or do
I? Is it a "missed" cancellation? A binding error?<br>
Should I construct the signature formula as though I had a
"perfect" copy, with a note about the duplicate pages?<br>
<br>
Sorry, it seems to me the more I try to explain what I
have, the more confusing it becomes.<br>
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<i>Filosofía médica ó Principios fundamentales de la
ciencia y el</i> ..., tome 2. Madrid, 1802.<br>
[Translation of <i>Philosophie médicale, ou, Principes
fondamentaux de la science</i> ... Paris, 1796]<br>
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target="_blank">http://books.google.com/books?id=EXjBr9l2-U0C&pg=PA257#v=onepage&q&f=false</a><br>
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Thank you in advance for any insights!<br>
<br>
Barbara<br>
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