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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Erin,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I agree with what you recommend (</span><span style="color:#1F497D">“$c [illegible signature]” or “$c John Doe [?]” with explanatory note) as
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">it is the most accurate reflection of what is on the piece. There IS a signature, but you cannot read it or speculate what characters (or monogram?) the artist wrote. Since there is a signature, I agree that you should record
the fact in the 245 $c in either way that you suggest, although I prefer the first since if it is a more accurate statement (i.e., not a single letter can be identified).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Ellen <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Erin Blake<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Help with statement of responsibility using DCRM(G)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Actually, DCRM(G) 1G13 is meant to apply whether or not you know who the artist is.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">1G2 only applies when there is NO statement of responsibility, or when the statement of responsibility was added after the fact by someone other than the artist (for example, a dealer or curator who helpfully
added the name as a sort of label). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">DCRM(G) is silent on what to do if the signature is totally illegible AND you know the artist’s name. Speaking as chief editor of DCRM(G), I can only say that I guess we assumed that if you knew who the artist
was, you’d always be able to make out at least part of the signature. For instance, if you knew the artist was John Doe, but couldn’t tell if the signature was “JD” or “J Doe” you could put “J D[oe?]” (following 0G6.2.: Conjectural and indecipherable text).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Can any of the other DCRM editors help me out here? I understand why we don’t supply a statement of responsibility when there isn’t one, but if there IS one, then omitting the $c is a misrepresentation of the
item. Shouldn’t we at least indicate in the transcription field that there IS something to transcribe, we just can’t figure it out?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Here’s what I’d do: because rule 1G3.2 doesn’t specifically say NOT to write “$c [illegible signature]” or “$c John Doe [?]” just that you DO need to record the presence of illegible words in a note, I’d put
a conjectural statement of responsibility in the $c and make a note saying that the signature is illegible, but known to be that of John Doe. And maybe later, a scholar who specializes in John Doe’s work will recognize what the actual letters are, and you
can update the record.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">EB.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">__________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Erin C. Blake, Ph.D. | Head of Collection Information Services | Folger Shakespeare Library | 201 E. Capitol St. SE, Washington, DC 20003 | office tel. +1 (202) 675-0323 | fax +1 (202) 675-0328 |
<a href="mailto:eblake@folger.edu">eblake@folger.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sterkenburg, Sara<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 12, 2014 11:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Help with statement of responsibility using DCRM(G)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Marie-Chantal,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Since the artist signed the piece (unless it is completely unrecognizable/illegible), I would definitely bracket in the artist’s full name in the 245 $c. In your case, the signature (in my opinion) can be considered a statement of responsibility
written in ‘manuscript’ text, since it’s not printed or electronic (see rule below). I would also include a note in your local catalog stating that the piece is signed by the artist.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">However, if it is illegible or you would not know who this artist was by the signature alone, then DCRM(G) Section 1G2 directs you to leave it out the 245 $c and put the information in a note field instead:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u>DCRM(G) Section 1G2:<o:p></o:p></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">“If a statement of responsibility is not in text (printed, <span style="color:red">
manuscript</span>, or electronic) provided by the creator or creating body on or with the material, do not supply a bracketed statement. If known, record an attribution and the source of the attribution in a note (see 7B6.3.1). If no attribution can be made,
make a note if considered important (see 7B6.3.4)”--Pages 56-57.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hope that helps!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-Sara<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Sara Sterkenburg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Cataloging & Exhibition Services Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Vanderbilt University Special Collections Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">(615) 343-1965<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="mailto:sara.sterkenburg@vanderbilt.edu">sara.sterkenburg@vanderbilt.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>L'Écuyer-Coelho Marie-Chantal<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 12, 2014 10:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Help with statement of responsibility using DCRM(G)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I need advice from cataloguers experimented with art prints description.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">How are we supposed to transcribe the statement of responsibility when the artwork has been signed in pencil by the artist, but the signature is such that we cannot determine if
it represents the artist’s first name, his/her initials, etc. Since I know the artist’s identity, I cannot apply rule 1G13.1 from DCRM(G). Should I simply write a note to mention the work is signed by the artist, without recording anything in 245 $c? Or should
I rather the artist’s full name in brackets as statement of responsibility?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Many thanks for your help!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Monotype Corsiva";color:#800040">Marie-Chantal L'Ecuyer-Coelho</span></i></b><span lang="FR-CA" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#993300"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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