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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Examining the book against the definition of unused signatures it would appear that I have unused signatures, made more complicated by the use of alphabetical
characters for both sets of signatures. The signatures do go up to a second alphabet and the unused signatures appear to continue. Amy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Manon Theroux<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Unusual signatures<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just thought I'd mention that DCRM(B) covers these sorts of unused signatures in rule 7B9.6 (concurrent signatures).<br>
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The rule was added during the revision of DCRB to DCRM(B) to better accommodate the description of 19th-century materials. The original recommendation and rationale can be found in the area 7 section of this document:<br>
<a href="http://rbms.info/dcrm/dcrmb/DCRMmachinepress121502.pdf">http://rbms.info/dcrm/dcrmb/DCRMmachinepress121502.pdf</a><br>
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Some brief articles on the topic for further reading:<br>
Nowell-Smith, S. "Signatures in some nineteenth-century Massachusetts duodecimos: a query," Library, 5th series, 3.1 (1948):58-62. [and responses in subsequent issues by W.A. Jackson and A.T Hazen]
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The pattern I have seen most often with concurrent signing is one set will be an alphabetic sequence and the other set will be a numeric sequence. Amy's query would seem to indicate that her book has only alphabetic sequences, which makes me wonder - is it
possible that her question has been misinterpreted and this is not a concurrent signing situation after all? I confess when I first read it, I thought she was either asking how and whether to show the pattern of signings on specific leaves within gatherings,
e.g. how to show that in gathering B, two leaves are signed, one as B and another as B2 OR how to indicate a gathering that has duplicate letters, e.g. Aa. These are both common occurrences, of course, but I think she indicated she doesn't do signatures very
often so they seemed like natural questions to have. But maybe I didn't understand the question myself, entirely possible!
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On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Ted P Gemberling <<a href="mailto:tgemberl@uab.edu" target="_blank">tgemberl@uab.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks again for explaining that. It’s a very interesting topic.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ted Gemberling</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 26, 2014 3:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Unusual signatures</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">I think plates may have come this way--later Burns printings in this country (late ca. 1850s onwards) sometimes were printed from rather tired
British plates--I think. It was a long time ago that I worked with that collection, before I'd done much work with books other than C18 British ones.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">It appears that American book printers didn't print directly from type, but from plates (this is perhaps too summarily stated, from Michael
Winship). Compositors would set signatures, but in many many cases no book was ever printed from the plates with the indicated structure. In that way the link between composition and presswork was pretty much severed, though signatures, being habitual, kept
appearing. British books retained them into the late c20, and I've never met one with a non-matching structure.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Deborah J. Leslie <<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#993366">I'm trying to think whether I've ever seen that practice in a British book. I think not, but will pay
more attention. However, weren't plates sold or exchanged between North America and Britain?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#31849B">Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library |
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202.675-0369</a> | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | www. <a href="http://folger.edu" target="_blank">
folger.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ted P Gemberling<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 26 September 2014 11:58</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Unusual signatures<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Linde,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I remember in the Rare Book School course I took from Richard, he suggested that maybe this is peculiar
to American books because technological change was faster in America than in Europe. American printers were more likely to use plates with signatures that were meaningful in an earlier edition but no longer in the new one. Did I get this right, Richard? I
don’t want to misrepresent what you said. But it is an interesting phenomenon. I’m glad I don’t have to worry about it at my library because we don’t put signatures on any books from the machine printing period, when the method of printing from plates was
invented. It must have been a great technological advance when it was invented! Imagine not having to set the type again for each edition.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ted Gemberling</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Linde B.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 26, 2014 10:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Unusual signatures</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I was not calling into question the AAS's cataloging, by any means. I was simply curious about what the phenomenon actually
was and what it signified, which you've elucidated wonderfully, Richard.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Noble, Richard <<a href="mailto:richard_noble@brown.edu" target="_blank">richard_noble@brown.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">The signatures are referred to as "unused". They are an element of the printing plates, which could actually be arranged on the press in a
different way, that is, to produce a different format, and often were.<br>
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In some cases the plates contained two sets of signatures--often alphabetical signatures for 8s and numerical signatures for 12s--and in many cases neither set was used. This is a strictly American practice, as far as I've ever seen--I've never seen it in a
British or continental book. It became so ridiculous that American printers generally abandoned the use of signatures altogether over the course of the 1870s.<br>
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It is often possible to establish the actual structure of the book (the arrangement of the leaves into gatherings), but unless you're familiar with the phenomenon, and confident about your ability to analyze the structure, there's no reason worry about a collation.
It's still possible to state what the signatures are purely as an element of the printing plates, without saying anything about format. Still, for most situations, a good account of the pagination will suffice.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">This is an early example, and I'd certainly remark on it for its value as evidence regarding American printing practice of the period and place--but
Deborah's quite right to suggest being content with the AAS record--they're ... ummm ... pretty good at cataloging.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">FWIW, there are examples of formal treatment in the Brown University catalog:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Linde B. <<a href="mailto:linde.brocato@gmail.com" target="_blank">linde.brocato@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Deborah J. Leslie <<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">For good reason! Run away from those signatures (and even the assertion that it's an 8vo) as fast as you can and don't look back. There's not much room for improvement on the AAS's
master record: 191238702 <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Just out of curiosity, why?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Are they meaningless?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Is this just too modern for us?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b>From:</b> "Deborah J. Leslie" <<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@FOLGER.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> September 25, 2014 at 5:38:00 PM EDT<br>
<b>To:</b> "DCRM Users' Group" <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: [DCRM-L] Unusual signatures</b><br>
<b>Reply-To:</b> "DCRM Users' Group" <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#993366">For good reason! Run away from those signatures (and even the assertion that it's an 8vo) as fast as you
can and don't look back. There's not much room for improvement on the AAS's master record: 191238702</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#31849B">Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library |
<a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">djleslie@folger.edu</a> | <a href="tel:202.675-0369" target="_blank">
202.675-0369</a> | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | www. <a href="http://folger.edu" target="_blank">
folger.edu</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>
[<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Weiss, Amy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 25 September 2014 17:01<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Unusual signatures</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The works of Robert Burns with an account of his life…. Philadelphia : J. Crissy, 1839. Seems to
be an abridgement of a much larger (4 volume) work, has been reprinted and reworked many times by numerous publishers. None of the other records I looked at matched and nobody tried to do anything with signatures. Amy</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</span></a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</span></a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Deborah J. Leslie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 25, 2014 4:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Unusual signatures<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Oh wait, you said it was an 8vo. It still would help to know what book it is.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#31849B">Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | <a href="mailto:djleslie@folger.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">djleslie@folger.edu</span></a> |
<a href="tel:202.675-0369" target="_blank">202.675-0369</a> | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | www.
<a href="http://folger.edu" target="_blank">folger.edu</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</span></a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</span></a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Weiss, Amy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:19<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954F72">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Unusual signatures</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hello--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Okay, maybe it is a really common pattern but most of what I catalog is too young for signatures at all so I’m
hoping one of you can help: I have a book (8vo) that has signatures reading B, B2, C, C2, followed by Aa, Aa2 etc. Do I need to show those second signatures, and if so, how? Or do I just take them in stride and maybe make a note? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks in advance for your help,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Amy Weiss<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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