<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style><font face="georgia, serif">I'm happy to play ignorant, and ask, "What does </font><i style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">sur l'imprim</i><font face="georgia, serif"><i>é</i> mean?" All I can think is that it's something like "based on the printed version", an indication of reprinting. In that case, as a prefixed qualification, it belongs neither to the place nor to the printer. But this could be altogether off the mark, for all I know.</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><font face="'courier new', monospace">RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY</font><div><font face="'courier new', monospace">BROWN UNIVERSITY :: PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912 :: 401-863-1187</font></div><div><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"><</span><a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" style="font-family:'courier new',monospace" target="_blank">Richard_Noble@Br</a><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"><a href="http://own.edu" target="_blank">own.edu</a></span><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace">></span></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Deborah J. Leslie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:DJLeslie@folger.edu" target="_blank">DJLeslie@folger.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 09 February 2015 12:00<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would use your option 2, and in fact have done so in the past. The phrase "sur l'imprime" seems to be grammatically connected to "A Lyon", so I would transcribe it as part of the place of publication.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Laurence S. Creider <<a href="mailto:lcreider@lib.nmsu.edu" target="_blank">lcreider@lib.nmsu.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Folks,<br>
It has been a few years since I have actually cataloged anything, and<br>
would appreciate some help with an imprint statement.<br>
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I am cataloging a 1690 French translation of Gregory the Great's On<br>
Pastoral Care. The imprint reads<br>
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Sur l'imprime, [in small italics]<br>
A LYON,<br>
Chez PIERRE VALFREY, rue Merciere,<br>
a la Couronne d'Or<br>
[horizontal line]<br>
M.DC. XC.<br>
AVEC PRIVILEGE DU ROI.<br>
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How should the phrase "Sur l'imprime" be recorded?<br>
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Options (without keeping original punctuation and without diacritics) seem<br>
to include:<br>
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1) Lyon : Sur l'imprime, a LYON, Chez Pierre Valfrey ..., 1690.<br>
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2) Sur l'imprime, a LYON : Chez Pierre Valfrey ..., 1690.<br>
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3) A LYON : Chez Pierre Valfrey ..., 1690<br>
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4) as no. 3, but with a note that the words "Sur l'imprime" precede "A<br>
Lyon" on the t.p.<br>
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OCLC offers examples of all of these, except possibly 4. What am I<br>
missing in DCRM(B) or the examples?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Larry<br>
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