<div dir="ltr">Thank you all for this useful bibliography and interesting information!<div><br></div><div>Matthew</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Will Evans <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:evans@bostonathenaeum.org" target="_blank">evans@bostonathenaeum.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">I can re-confirm the lack of these slips in the Boston Athenaeum’s half-height card catalogue, which I think is really surprising. What we call our Cutter card catalogue, which we kept as an historical reference, was started by C.A. Cutter and his assistants in the early 1870’s. We have documentation in our archives stating that after ten years of writing out the cards (in lovely 19^th century penmanship) they realized that less than 10% of the collection was represented on the cards. To expedite matters they started cutting up the old catalogues they had published in book form and pasted those entries on to the cards. I would have thought they would have availed themselves of Holt’s slips, but again, they are not to be found.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Best,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Will</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</span></u></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Will Evans</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Chief Rare Materials Catalog Librarian</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Library of the Boston Athenaeum</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">10 1/2 Beacon Street</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Boston, MA   02108</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Tel:  <a href="tel:617-227-0270%20ext.%20224" value="+16172270270" target="_blank">617-227-0270 ext. 224</a></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Fax: <a href="tel:617-227-5266" value="+16172275266" target="_blank">617-227-5266</a> </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.bostonathenaeum.org/" target="_blank">www.bostonathenaeum.org</a></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounce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dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Noble, Richard<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 05, 2015 11:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] CV question</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">It's CIP (quite literally, even though some 82 years <i>avant la lettre</i>), so "CIP leaf?"--a somewhat lighthearted suggestion.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">- Has anyone else seen one?</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif""> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">- Could we see an image of this one? I'm curious to see what 1889 CIP looks like.</span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  <a href="tel:401-863-1187" value="+14018631187" target="_blank">401-863-1187</a></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><</span><a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Richard_Noble@Br</span></a><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://own.edu" target="_blank">own.edu</a>></span></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Matthew C. Haugen <<a href="mailto:matthew.haugen@columbia.edu" target="_blank">matthew.haugen@columbia.edu</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hello,</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I recently came across something in a book I haven't seen before: printed descriptions of the book meant to be excised and pasted onto library catalog cards. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The book is Our familiar songs and those who made them. New York : Henry Holt and company, 1889.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The text printed on the preliminary leaf begins: "Slips for Librarians to paste on Catalogue Cards. N.B.--Take out carefully, leaving about quarter of an inch at the back. To do otherwise would, in some cases, release other leaves." This is followed by the text for for 5 cards, for author, title, a variant title and two subject entries.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">From the description and signing pattern, I take this to be an integral leaf. I imagine some copies might have only a stub suggesting that this leaf was removed. Or, perhaps this was a separate issue distributed to libraries and this text wasn't included in all copies?  I have a copy of the Holt 1881 edition which has a blank preliminary in this place. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">It does seem to be an interesting case, but I'm not sure how best to describe it, nor can I find an obvious term in the controlled vocabularies. I'll consider proposing one if needed. Any ideas?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Matthew<span style="color:#888888"><br clear="all"><span></span></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:#888888">-- </span></span></p><div><div><pre><span style="color:#888888">-- <br>Matthew C. Haugen<br>Rare Book Cataloger<br>102 Butler Library<br>Columbia University Libraries<br>E-mail: <a href="mailto:matthew.haugen@columbia.edu" target="_blank">matthew.haugen@columbia.edu</a><br>Phone: <a href="tel:212-851-2451" target="_blank">212-851-2451</a></span></pre></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><pre cols="72">-- <br>Matthew C. Haugen<br>Rare Book Cataloger<br>102 Butler Library<br>Columbia University Libraries<br>E-mail: <a href="mailto:matthew.haugen@columbia.edu" target="_blank">matthew.haugen@columbia.edu</a><br>Phone: 212-851-2451</pre>
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