<div dir="ltr"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span><p class="MsoNormal">MT: If you have a hand-colored item
and evidence suggests that all copies were issued with the hand-coloring
(e.g. you have a map with a legend indicating the colors used to
portray different kinds of information), I assume the bibliographic
record would have color
indicated in 300 $b?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:rgb(0,112,192);background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white">FL:
The task force did not discuss this situation (unless I dozed for that
bit), but I believe your assumption is correct: we would indicate color
in 300 $b.</span></p>
</span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:rgb(153,51,102);background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white">[DJL:
] Legends with instructions about hand-coloring do not provide evidence
that all copies of a map were issued hand-colored, so once again,
a cataloger will not know whether the hand-colored map in hand was
issued that way by the publisher. <br></span></p></blockquote>MT: This is the sort of legend I'm talking about:<br><a href="http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/s/oj48v2">http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/s/oj48v2</a><br>Personally, I would consider the "Erklärung der Farben" to be enough evidence to assume that the item had been issued with the hand-coloring. The map simply wouldn't make sense without the color - it needs the color for informational purposes to show what it claims to be showing. It seems rather doubtful to me that it would have been issued without it.<br><br><br><div><div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:rgb(0,112,192);background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white"></span><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:rgb(153,51,102)">DJ: I'm copying Chet Van Duzer on this conversation; he's traveling at present but may be able to add something in due time. He is an historian of medieval and renaissance
maps, one of the organizers of the Paint Over Print conference, and the presenter of the paper on his census of hand-colored maps in the 1513 Ptolemy. He will have more precise information about current research on hand-coloring.
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</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div>MT: That would be welcome, of course! But let's also keep in mind that the DCRM rules are intended to cover
special collections materials from any time period, not just the
medieval and renaissance eras. It is my understanding that hand-coloring in, say, a 19th-century atlas, is very likely to have been issued that way by the publisher (often having been applied by women or children in a factory or other production-line environment, sometimes using stencils for improved speed and accuracy).<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Manon<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div></div></div>