<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">In any such discussions one will need to be aware that the perspective of the DCRM Community, so to call it (pretty accurately, I think), and that of the purveyors of the WorldCat Discovery Service, are rather at variance--or operate according to different geometries...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">The purpose of WCDS is to replace "institution records" at the cloud level <i>and at the institutional level</i>. An institutional "catalog" will be simply those records that represent institutional holdings, which will be presented in the local context by way of a filter. They provide for item-level characteristics, not by having what are essentially (from their point of view) duplicate records that incorporate that information, but by including linked LBD that will display only to the institution's users. It's simple enough--think of ESTC and the like, which make provision for copy-level notes in the holdings, except that the LBD will not be available except to the individual subscribers.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">We all know, however, that the WorldCat is a messy database, rife with duplication and confusion, partly as a result of the effort to incorporate the entire World's records in all their variety. It has to be cleaned up for the model to work. One good reference that I've run across for the nature of the clean-up is the article "GLIMIR: manifestation and content clustering within WorldCat", in <i>code{4}lib</i> 17 (2012-06-01)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><a href="http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/6812">http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/6812</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">The deliberate maintenance of whole individual institutional records is an unrewarding distraction from this process. The best one might hope for (as James Weinheimer has suggested, rather wishfully, on AUTOCAT) would be to preserve the current IRs as they stand as a reference database, but that's a pretty large act of charity.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Even when they were created, the IRs were, as expressed in "Cataloging: Use bibliographic institution records"</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style><font face="georgia, serif"><a href="http://www.oclc.org/content/dam/support/connexion/documentation/client/cataloging/IRrecords/institutionrecords.pdf">http://www.oclc.org/content/dam/support/connexion/documentation/client/cataloging/IRrecords/institutionrecords.pdf</a></font><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style><font face="georgia, serif">envisioned only as a means to preserve item-level information: "</font>These records contain additional cataloging data, such as local call numbers, holdings locations within the institution, or local or copy-specific notes."</div><div class="gmail_default" style><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style><font face="georgia, serif">What we are left with is, we can only hope, the continuation of DCRM records as equivalent to "parallel" records, as a way of maintaining any semblance of such cataloging in a consolidated Cloud environment. If OCLC is willing to continue regarding our records under that rubric, they will want to limit multiple representations of the same entity to a single set of master records created in different cataloging languages and under different description conventions (in whatever combinations of those two criteria). That leaves the institution with the option of attaching its holdings to 040 $e dcrm(x) records, and us with a parallel universe within which to contribute to and enhance each other's work (and for the good of researchers, one might add). The other desideratum would be provision for viewing all of the local bibliographic data associated with the record--ideally to all users, if they could be talked into that.</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><font face="'courier new', monospace">RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY</font><div><font face="'courier new', monospace">BROWN UNIVERSITY :: PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912 :: 401-863-1187</font></div><div><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"><</span><a href="mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE@BROWN.EDU" style="font-family:'courier new',monospace" target="_blank">Richard_Noble@Br</a><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace"><a href="http://own.edu" target="_blank">own.edu</a></span><span style="font-family:'courier new',monospace">></span></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Schneider, Nina <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu" target="_blank">nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah J. Leslie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:14 AM<span class=""><br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Discontinuation of OCLC's institutional records program<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#993366">Maybe the new conveners of the TSDG can arrange a joint meeting with Curators and Conservators or Public Services and have Jackie talk; the loss of IR's concerns
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I’ve been in touch with Jackie Dooley who has offered to have an OCLC rep be available to us during ALA Annual in June. I can schedule a period for discussion
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Nina M. Schneider<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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