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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Ms. Dooley,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Thank you for the link to your article and its relevant passage. And thank you for kind words as to the importance of our work. They are much appreciated.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">For the record I was being literal, not ironic, when I stated that I was unsure as to what extent the archival community had embraced MPLP. I have no idea, or I hadn’t until you pointed to your research. Bully for the archival community.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">I am, however, not convinced that the rare book cataloging community should follow suit. By and large we are not working with unique items, and unlike archives we have a rich, long tradition of bibliographic scholarship, with which to inform our cataloging, resources that are increasingly a few clicks away. It seems to me that a collective database, rich in content, judiciously outlining what makes our collections so special with cataloging that could be shared would be a very feasible way to make our work economically sustainable. Apparently, OCLC is not interested in being that venue. Fine, I get. It is a business concern, and we are a niche market. But given all the we contribute, it stings. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Best,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Will</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</span></u></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Will Evans</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Chief Rare Materials Catalog Librarian</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Library of the Boston Athenaeum</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">10 1/2 Beacon Street</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Boston, MA 02108</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Tel: 617-227-0270 ext. 224</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d">Fax: 617-227-5266 </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.bostonathenaeum.org/">www.bostonathenaeum.org</a></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lapka, Francis<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 14, 2015 6:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] OCLC</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">I bear no rotten tomatoes. OCLC’s evolution brings forward two distinct issues, and we should be wary of conflating them. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">1. OCLC will cease to be a resource for discovering copy-specific descriptions. Some of us may regret this, but it seems a fait accompli. So let’s start exploring other options. It may be that a better and more sustainable mechanism emerges as we provide our catalog descriptions on the web as LOD.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">2. OCLC wants WorldCat Discovery Services to replace our local catalogs as catalogs-of-record for descriptions of Manifestations. That is, it wants us to collaboratively create and maintain a single database (OCLC’s database) for the description of Manifestations, and cease to edit Manifestation data in our local catalogs. I think this is a decent principle / model. For special collections cataloging, I’m not sure if OCLC is the best option as hub. It certainly has the most mass. I’d like to see us compare what OCLC has to offer with other possibilities.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d">Francis</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dooley,Jackie<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 14, 2015 5:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> DCRM-L<br><b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Link for my article "Ten Commandments …"</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">First, this post doesn't address institution records (IRs) at all. As a staff member in OCLC Research, it's not appropriate for me to comment at this juncture on what is a products/services issue. I hope to be able to be part of discussions at ALA in June, however.</span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Should anyone else be interested in having a look, here's the URL on the RBM website to my article that Richard Noble quoted: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rbm.acrl.org_content_10_1_51.full.pdf-26-2343-3Bhtml-3Fsid-3D24a3b8f0-2D891f-2D4aae-2Da9f4-2Dc80a7a4bbe58&d=AwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=vF_VPmgJVEL5ceYRq36fmukVcY5irI4x7r_DWXyDvyQ&s=yssqbHEtqNQhL02zZrC7jXAvPGq3ELXDSrKUdN10lKw&e=">http://rbm.acrl.org/content/10/1/51.full.pdf+html?sid=24a3b8f0-891f-4aae-a9f4-c80a7a4bbe58</a></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">And here's the full section from which Richard was quoting:</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">V. Make your work economically sustainable.</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">When Donald Waters of the Mellon Foundation was working with CLIR to formulate the “hidden collections” initiative (launched in 2008), he noted that he had been feeling “nickel-and-dimed to death” by boutique digitization projects. I noted earlier that boutique is dead; long live economical large-scale projects. Grants agencies, including Mellon, CLIR, the National Endowment for the Humanities, and others, place a high value on innovative, cost-effective processing and cataloging methodologies. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Karen Calhoun noted the need to “get over item-level description” and get more serious about streamlining cataloging. Our generalist colleagues in libraries have made massive strides in this regard over the past decade or more. Isn’t it time we do the same? Archivists generally let go of item-level description at least 25 years ago and have now widely embraced the Greene/Meissner mandate for “more product, less process.”</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Rare book catalogers have inched toward less-full descriptions by including minimal-level record guidelines in Descriptive Cataloging of Rare Materials, but does the rather conservative approach that they have articulated to date go far enough? </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Digital library systems are beginning to enable collective metadata for digital objects. The Smithsonian’s Museum of American Art, for example, has developed software that enables folder-level descriptions linked to digital images of the items in that folder, smoothly implemented in the course of digitization. We will see more and more such systems, and they will come quickly. This is very good news.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">-----------</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">There's soooo much to be said about these issues. IMHO it's important that rare book catalogers engage constructively as a community with the tough issues involved in continuing to create very time-consuming catalog records in today's library climate of needing to conserve resources. Don't assume I'm asserting that such records should not be made: far from it. But nuanced discussion that goes beyond assumptions that OCLC and your library managers are unfeeling and don't value the work you do (I'm paraphrasing what I've sensed is the overall thrust of the IR thread on this list) would, I feel, be of great value to this community—of which I've been a card-carrying member for 30+ years now. The work you all do is incredibly important to the scholars and other users who need accurate, detailed rare book records; I just wonder whether you're taking the most productive approach to discussing the issues.</span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">One small point: one person opined that MPLP may not have had significant uptake in the archival community. It has in fact had both huge uptake and catalytic impact. Not universal, but deep and wide. My 2010 survey of special collections in research libraries in the US/Canada indicates that at that time 75% used it either sometimes or always.</span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I'll try to duck when the rotten tomatoes start flying. :)</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Best wishes to all, Jackie</span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">--</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Jackie Dooley</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Program Officer, OCLC Research</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div></div></div></body></html>