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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think a rare reason might be the special needs of incunabula, many of which have no title pages. I have taken titles from first lines of text, incipits, the colophon/explicit, prologues, tables, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Anna Bryan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Senior Cataloger<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rare Materials Section<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>U.S. Anglo Division<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Library of Congress<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I speak only for myself.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Maxwell<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 21, 2015 9:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] Preferred Source of Information -- No title page -- Same title proper available in more than one source<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If a difference like this does remain in DCRM it needs to be justified by a *rare* reason, and not just be there because we think it's a good idea. I'm having a hard time seeing a requirement arising from the fact that we're cataloging rare materials that makes us depart from RDA on this particular issue.<br><br>Bob<br><br>Robert L. Maxwell<br>Ancient Languages and Special Collections Cataloger<br>6728 Harold B. Lee Library<br>Brigham Young University<br>Provo, UT 84602<br>(801)422-5568<br><br>"We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.<o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>> on behalf of Lapka, Francis <<a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu">francis.lapka@yale.edu</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 21, 2015 5:55:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] Preferred Source of Information -- No title page -- Same title proper available in more than one source</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>I’d like community input on the matter of the preferred source of information for resources *<b>lacking a title page.</b>*<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>All DCRM modules are compatible with the idea expressed in DCRM(B) 0C3: “ … if a single <a href="http://desktop.loc.gov/search?view=document&doc_action=setdoc&doc_keytype=foliodestination&doc_key=dcrmbTitleSPACEproperSLASHglossary&hash=TitleSPACEproperSLASHglossary&fq=allresources%7Ctrue">title proper</a> is available in a single source within the publication, use this source as the title page substitute.”<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>All are also compatible with the idea of an ordered list of preferred sources when (quoting B) “different titles, or differing forms of the same title, appear within the publication.”<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>When, however, “the *<b>same title proper</b>* is available in more than one source within the resource” there is a noteworthy difference. In Serials, this condition is not treated separately from that in which differing titles appear. That is, Serials prescribes the ordered list of preferred sources. The Serials approach mimics that of RDA (see 2.2.2.2). <o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>For this condition, the other DCRM modules say to choose “the source that supplies the most additional information” – an idea entirely absent from RDA. If the next version of DCRM maintains this guideline, it would represent a major departure from RDA. Is this variation justifiable?<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>(I don’t yet have an opinion on the matter.)<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Francis<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Francis Lapka · Catalog Librarian<o:p></o:p></p><p>Department of Rare Books and Manuscripts<o:p></o:p></p><p>Yale Center for British Art<o:p></o:p></p><p>203.432.9672 · <a href="mailto:francis.lapka@yale.edu">francis.lapka@yale.edu</a><o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>