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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ann K.D. Myers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 10, 2015 10:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] 510 citations and the SCF<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">At Stanford the 510s are listed under the heading "Citation." According to OCLC's Bibliographic Standards and Formats page, 510 4_ displays as "References."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>> on behalf of Randal S. BRANDT <<a href="mailto:rbrandt@library.berkeley.edu">rbrandt@library.berkeley.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 10, 2015 10:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Users' Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] 510 citations and the SCF</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The display constant is system-driven. In Berkeley's catalog it is "Indexed in:", which I am not particularly fond of (but at least our OPAC displays
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Schneider, Nina <<a href="mailto:nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu" target="_blank">nschneider@humnet.ucla.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It wasn’t on BSC’s to-do list, but can be.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We can also remove “References:” although at the time I think that some systems automatically generated that text. Since the OPAC at my institution doesn’t display the 510 field,
I’m wondering if someone could weigh in on the language of the display constant (if one exists)?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">+---------------</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Nina M. Schneider</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu" target="_blank">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah J. Leslie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'DCRM Users' Group'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] 510 citations and the SCF</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">While we’re talking about the SCF, the Examples to accompany DCRM(B) need updating to illustrate the new forms. Is that on a BSC project to-do list? </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Please note, too, what SCF says about constructing the 510
<a href="http://rbms.info/scf/working-principles/" target="_blank">http://rbms.info/scf/working-principles/</a> :</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">Subfield $a of the 510 field contains the standard citation form of the source in which the reference or citation appears. Subfield $c contains the specific location of the citation or reference within the source (e.g., page number,
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<span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">510 3_ $a Hiler, H. Bibliography of costume</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">510 4_ $a Abbey, J.R. Life in England in aquatint and lithography, 1770-1860, $c entry 137</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">510 4_ $a Fleeman, J.D. Bibliography of the works of Samuel Johnson, $c entry 65.10SP/1</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:Courier;color:black">510 4_ $a Hale, J.R. “Newberry Library supplement to the foreign books in M.J.D. Cockle’s A bibliography of English military books up to 1642 and of contemporary foreign works.” In Papers of the Bibliographical
Society of America, v. 55 (1961): 137-39, $c entry 621a</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">The Examples to accompany DCRM(B) begin the ‡a with “References:” on all examples. Those can be removed when updating the citation forms.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:blue">510 </span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">4# $a References: ESTC $c N5136</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> Deborah J. Leslie
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 08 August 08 2015 10:13<br>
<b>To:</b> 'DCRM Users' Group'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [DCRM-L] 510 citations</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Manon,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D">I have always understood that the 510 is to be reserved for published bibliographical descriptions, despite the MARC format’s broader scope, and that references to other kinds of sources
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library |
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Manon Theroux<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 20 July 20 2015 14:41<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] 510 citations</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">Hi, everyone:<br>
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I could use some clarification on citing resources in the MARC21 510 field. If the resource to be cited is NOT a bibliography or catalog and doesn't contain a bibliographic description of the resource being cataloged, can the 510 field still be used for the
citation or should the citation be incorporated into the general note? For example, citing an entry for a printer in a biographical dictionary to justified supplied dates in the 26X or citing an academic monograph to justify an attributed name. DCRM(B) suggests
that you can ("or other authoritative reference sources") and points to SCF as a standard, but the SCF scope statement itself is a bit narrower: "bibliographies and catalogs (printed or electronic) that are useful in verifying, identifying, or describing items
held in rare book or special collections libraries and that have been or are likely to be cited in bibliographic records, trade catalog descriptions, and bibliographies."
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<span style="color:black">Below are the relevant bits from DCRM(B), SCF, and MARC21.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">Manon<br>
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Manon Théroux<br>
Head of Technical Services<br>
U.S. Senate Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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DCRM(B):<br>
7B14. References to published descriptions<br>
7B14.1. Give references to published descriptions in bibliographies or other authoritative reference sources if these have been used to supply elements of the description. Use the form and punctuation conventions recommended by Standard Citation Forms for Published
Bibliographies and Catalogs Used in Rare Book Cataloging. Begin the note with the word “References” and a colon.<br>
References: Evans 24658<br>
(Comment: Made in conjunction with a general note reading: “Publication date<br>
from Evans”)<br>
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7B14.2. Make other references to published descriptions, if considered important. Such references are especially useful whenever the cited source would serve to distinguish an edition (or variant) from similar editions (or variants), substantiate information
provided by the cataloger, or provide a more detailed description of the publication being cataloged.<br>
References: Gaskell, P. Baskerville, 17<br>
References: ESTC (CD-ROM, 2003 ed.) T60996<br>
References: Lindsay & Neu. French political pamphlets, 2194<br>
References: BM STC Italian, 1465-1600, p. 368<br>
References: Ritter, F. Incun. alsaciens de la Bib. nat. de Strasbourg, 277<br>
References: Palau y Dulcet (2. ed.) 19161<br>
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7B14.3. A general note may be made if a description of the publication being cataloged does not appear in a specific bibliographical reference source. Make such a note only if the publication fits the scope for that source and the source purports to be comprehensive
for its scope. Preface the general note with the words “Not in” and a colon.<br>
Not in: Martin & Walter. Révolution française. Cf. IV:2, 9093<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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SCF Working Principles <a href="http://rbms.info/scf/working-principles/" target="_blank">
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This database includes bibliographies and catalogs (printed or electronic) that are useful in verifying, identifying, or describing items held in rare book or special collections libraries and that have been or are likely to be cited in bibliographic records,
trade catalog descriptions, and bibliographies.<br>
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MARC 21 Bibliographic Format, Application:<br>
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Use the citation forms recommended in this list when creating citation/references notes (field 510) in a MARC 21 bibliographic record. These notes are described in Descriptive Cataloging for Rare Materials (Books) 7B14.2 and other DCRM manuals.<br>
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The citation/references note (510) field provides a simple bibliographical citation for a published description of an item and specifies where in the resources that description appears; do not include other information. If necessary, use a general note (field
500) to record additional information provided by the resource cited. Create a citation/references note (510) field for titles which might be useful for retrieval, even in cases where this would involve repetition of information already recorded in a general
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General note (500) field:<br>
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500 __ $a Evans calls this the 2nd edition.<br>
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Citation/references note (510) field:<br>
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510 4_ $a Evans, C. American bibliography, $c entry 14023<br>
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MARC21, 510 Field <a href="https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd510.html" target="_blank">
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Citations or references to published bibliographic descriptions, reviews, abstracts, or indexes of the content of the described item.
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Used to specify where an item has been cited or reviewed. Citations or references may be given in a brief form (i.e., using generally recognizable abbreviations, etc.).
The actual text of a published description is not recorded in field 510 but rather in field 520 (Summary, Etc. Note).
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">books</span></strong> and
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">For
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">continuing resources</span></strong>, this field is used to specify publications in which a continuing resource has been indexed and/or abstracted and the dates of coverage, if known. The indexing and
abstracting services referenced are primarily those issued as continuing resources. Certain monographic titles, particularly those that are standard reference tools in a subject area or that cover periods of time not included in continuing publications, may
also be given in this field. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">For unpublished
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">visual materials</span></strong> or graphic items collectively controlled, this field contains references to published descriptions of the work or collection. Citations to reviews of projected
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">visual materials</span></strong> are also recorded in this field.
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">mixed materials</span></strong>, this field contains references to publications in which abstracts, citations, descriptions, or indexes of the described materials have appeared.
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