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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks to everyone who responded with help. A couple (one off-line) told me about the older form “umb,” and I plan to transcribe the abbreviation as v[mb].I appreciate the reference works Iris and John told me
about. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Best, Ted <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>O'Brien, Iris<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'DCRM Users' Group'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DCRM-L] German abbreviations from 1605/1618<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear Ted,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think the first abbreviation refers to “umb” an old form of “um,” which was still widely used up until 1680 (see Gijsbert Rutten, Rik Vosters,
Wim Vandenbussche (eds.) <i>Norms and usage in language history 1600-1900</i>. (Amsterdam: John Benjamins Publishing Company, 2014), p. 262;
<a href="https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=5anjBQAAQBAJ&pg">https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=5anjBQAAQBAJ&pg</a>). “Um” would make perfect sense in the context.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Iris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu">mailto:dcrm-l-bounces@lib.byu.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ted P Gemberling<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 September 2015 23:46<br>
<b>To:</b> DCRM Revision Group List (<a href="mailto:dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu">dcrm-l@lib.byu.edu</a>)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DCRM-L] German abbreviations from 1605/1618<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I hope someone can give me some enlightenment on two abbreviations I see on this title page. If you look at the first page of this, an engraved title page for a collection of surgical writings by Paracelsus from 1618:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">You’ll notice that about half way into the title, following “auch” and before “mehrer Richtigkeit vnd Ordnung willen,” there is what looks like a v followed by an m, topped by what appears to be the “missing letters” abbreviation on p.
188 of DCRM(b). Does anyone know what is being abbreviated here? On this page, which appears to be generally well transcribed, it is left as “vm” with the sign over the m:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=fTgPAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA85&lpg=PA85&dq=mehrerrichtigkeit&source=bl&ots=4Q7xDz1vBC&sig=U5OdO3WIUXXEyKmMcsNoLuB-Oxg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEYQ6AEwCWoVChMIvMip1bb8xwIVylYeCh3NQwjx#v=onepage&q=mehrerrichtigkeit&f=false">https://books.google.com/books?id=fTgPAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA85&lpg=PA85&dq=mehrerrichtigkeit&source=bl&ots=4Q7xDz1vBC&sig=U5OdO3WIUXXEyKmMcsNoLuB-Oxg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEYQ6AEwCWoVChMIvMip1bb8xwIVylYeCh3NQwjx#v=onepage&q=mehrerrichtigkeit&f=false</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That’s on p. 13 of the electronic book. I suppose that since this printer uses v in initial position for u, this could simply be “um.” But then why the abbreviation mark? And would “um” make sense here?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also toyed with the idea of “vom,” with the abbreviation showing loss of the o, but vom would not make sense because the noun agreeing with it would have to be masculine, and Richtigkeit is feminine.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now, the copy that I am cataloging is actually a 1605 edition, which, instead of “hohem Nutz vnd Verstandt,” two lines down from there, has “hohem Nutz vn Verstandt,” with the n in vn topped with the abbreviation sign. Since the 1618 edition
spells vnd out, I suppose there is no problem in interpreting the 1605 form as an abbreviation for that. Was that a typical abbreviation practice?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I particularly hope someone will have an idea about how to transcribe the first abbreviation.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I notice this German-language record, which has fairly extensive transcription, skips over those words: 912483569. Apparently the cataloger didn’t consider them essential to the sense of the title.
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